Sony PlayStation 3 Sales Up - Massively

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Sony PlayStation 3 Sales Up - Massively
UK figures for PlayStation 3 sales - according to Chart-Track - indicate that either the roll-out of the new, cut-down, 40Gb unit or the fact that the PS2-compatible 60Gb PS3's end-of-life, have had a miraculous effect.

The stats for week one of the 40Gb unit's sales show a massive 178% surge in units sold by retailers to consumers. No firm breakdown of which of the two versions of PS3 has lead the charge - or, course, whether this was a combined effort.

In the event that the sales were lead by the £299, 40Gb unit, these independently audited figures would indicate that demand for the console was in fact being held down by over-pricing. It would also seem to show that PS2 backwards compatibility is not the enormous concern that many industry commentators had predicted.

On the other hand, if this surge is caused by European consumers attempting to get their hands on the last remaining, fully compatible, 60Gb units, Sony could have a sales issue on its hands once consumers are faced with only the 40Gb PS3 as their Sony console choice.

SPOnG has contacted Sony for comment and clarification (and, we hope, not too much smirking).

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realvictory 16 Oct 2007 18:07
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toto24 wrote:
Well, I think Sony has made a big mistake with the new no-compatible ps3. If they based their decision on some stats they might be wrong.
As the ps2 has more than 2500 games available, the ps3 could really enjoy the nostalgic experience because that is what I am talking about.
No-compatible ps3 will enjoy the next generation games but unfortunately there have not been created yet.


In other words, it's not because it's backwards compatible that's the problem, it's the fact that it doesn't have the enough games. Wait a few years, then it will have those games that you've been waiting for, plus it will be cheaper, and I bet more people will buy one, without complaining about doing it.

I bet if it was only £200, people wouldn't complain. So I think Sony have got the right idea, but they're just taking it slowly.
haritori 16 Oct 2007 20:13
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Yes well i said the PS3 would do well all along, i was always for it, and have never said a bad word against sony ;-) <GRIN>.
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bertybassett 16 Oct 2007 20:14
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this is going to sounds fanboy'ism'ish (now is there such a word) but does that mean Sony are still behind Wii sales?

Maybe this is the start of something good or maybe it is just people getting the last of the 60Gb PS3s to sell on feaBay nearer Christmas for a huge profit?

I think well soon see when the 60Gbs have all sold out and only 40Gbs are left on shelfs. If there is a drop again you can guess what has happened.

Good luck Sony this time round you need it.

BTW my Jap PS3 was picked up in Hong Kong for £183 and no it doesn't play UK PS2 games but it was still £100 cheaper but only has a 20Gb HD, still want do I can care as I work in the PC trade and can upgrade to 160Gb for less than the £100 I saved.
gumb 16 Oct 2007 22:04
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Correct me if i am wrong but cant you just download the software update to play the PS2 games???
melono 16 Oct 2007 23:09
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Yeah theres a thing! the uk ps3 doesnt have the emotion chip inside it that the ps2 had, so why should it have a cost difference, all its doing is emulating the ps2 anyway. So why take it out?it doesnt make sence at all.
Joji 16 Oct 2007 23:59
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You hit the nail on the head, mate. Removing the Emotion chip from PS3 makes no freaking sense at all.

Sony will make crap excuses like 'rumble is last gen' and 'gamers are moving on from PS2 ' etc, but they aren't fooling me at all.

They never needed to mess about with the insides of PS3, all they had to do was cut the freaking price (like I have been saying here from when PS3 was released) and these same sales that we are seeing now would have happened. Sony think they are real smart now, after cheating everyone out of BC, but to be honest, seeing those high sales brings a sad tear to my eye, as many don't care enough to object such BC stupidity.

Congrats to new PS3 owners, but I have a bad feeling this latest debacle is gonna come back to bite them in their arse. Even if those games turn up, PS3 is still gonna have a very GC like existence, this generation.



Numanthia 17 Oct 2007 03:19
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I could care less about PS2 compatibility. If I want to play my old PS2 games I have my old console its just that simple. The fact that Sony is giving us the PS3 with Wi-fi, Bluetooth, and Friggin Blu-ray for so cheap is one of the greatest new technology deals I have ever heard of. I am purchasing 4 of these babies - 1 for my mum, 1 for my brothers family, 1 for my best friend (these will all be xmas gifts) and 1 for myself.

Sony is the simply the greatest!

markmywords 17 Oct 2007 03:51
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This is big for Sony!! Although Microsoft, and Nintendo won't go away with their own innovative consoles, Sony should progress with innovations of their own to get more sales.
Adrian Brian Firmin 17 Oct 2007 03:53
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I have a 60 gig PS3 at home here and I have retired my PS2 (to my brother's house) and I have to say that I am not overly impressed by the BC anyway... I have only played FFXII on it but it seems that it ran (f**k loads) smoother on the PS2... what does that say? Maybe that FFXII is crap on it and most everything else is great but in my opinion get a 40gig, upgrade the HDD to a 250 and keep your PS2... whatever you do though, make sure you get a PS3... I just love it.
Adrian Brian Firmin 17 Oct 2007 03:54
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I have a 60 gig PS3 at home here and I have retired my PS2 (to my brother's house) and I have to say that I am not overly impressed by the BC anyway... I have only played FFXII on it but it seems that it ran (f**k loads) smoother on the PS2... what does that say? Maybe that FFXII is crap on it and most everything else is great but in my opinion get a 40gig, upgrade the HDD to a 250 and keep your PS2... whatever you do though, make sure you get a PS3... I just love it.
tyrion 17 Oct 2007 09:04
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Joji wrote:
They never needed to mess about with the insides of PS3, all they had to do was cut the freaking price (like I have been saying here from when PS3 was released) and these same sales that we are seeing now would have happened.

Joji, I hope to hell you never run a business that employs other people.

Where are Sony going to get the money from to drop the price if they don't make savings on their production costs? Taking out the EE/GS and replacing it with a stand-alone GS and removing the GS completely along with the card readers and USB ports is what has enabled Sony to afford the price cut.

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet regarding Sony's pricing strategy, you have always harped on about Sony's "greed" in pricing the PS2, PSP and PS3. The PS2 has been priced at the level that the market will sustain, 120M+ units sold does not point to over pricing. The same is true of the PSP.

The PS3 has been priced high in order to recoup as much of the production costs as possible and sales have been relatively sluggish. Although, they seem to be matching the 360's sales and apparently have exceeded those of the PS2.

In order to speed up sales, Sony decided to drop the price. How to do that? We've already increased efficiencies in the production process, component prices are coming down but not fast enough. OK, we'll have to remove some components.

It's very simple economics. I wish you'd understand some time and stop harping back to this tired old point.

All of the above said, I still think that dropping BC completely was a bad move, but I can see the economic reasons for it. Hopefully some industrious firmware programmer is working on perfect GS emulation as we speak and 40GB owners will be able to update and play PS2 games, but I'm not holding my breath.
Rutabaga 17 Oct 2007 11:33
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Excellent post Tyrion, however I feel as though your banging your head against a brick wall. I will concede though that I think the removal of BC was a bit stupid. But I'd like to bet that after Christmas, Sony will release a "Full Fat" PS3 with a 120GB or even 160GB hard drive for the same £349 price point.

BENTLEY, why don't you get a pre-owned 60gb PS3 you can get them around the £300 mark anyway!
andy 17 Oct 2007 12:00
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i run a ps3 comparison website ps3 deals and can confirm that sales of the ps3 or through the roof compared to pre 10th oct, sales for us have gone up by around 500% and double the amount of people of are searching for the ps3 on google/yahoo etc.. as far as the 40gb vs 60gb goes i can tell you that only 10-15% of people are buying the 40gb even though it is £50 cheaper? Im not sure whether christmas sales are having an effect on our results, ill find out in january i suppose, but i expect once the 60gb runs out they will introduce a new model, maybe with more memory and ps2 backwards compatability as a hell of a lot of people are put off by this on the 40gb. We will wait and see!
tyrion 17 Oct 2007 13:12
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andy wrote:
as far as the 40gb vs 60gb goes i can tell you that only 10-15% of people are buying the 40gb even though it is £50 cheaper?

I'm sure 40GB slaes will pick up as we approach Christmas. The SKU is aimed at the pressie-buying parent market.

The reason we're currently seeing large sales of the 60GB is a combination of the bundle deal being well worth the extra £50, the price dropping below the threshold for a large number of people who were "just waiting for a price drop" and the goldrush around getting a PS2-BC SKU before they run out.
haritori 17 Oct 2007 20:27
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To Tyrion,

I have to say, you know I usually slam Sony for its stupidity, and that I also pick you out of the crowd allot for Sony sympathising, but I for one think Sony has at last created what was required, a cheaper SKU, itís what everyone has asked for and itís what everyone is getting, but all I see is the those same people moaning still about BC about less USB ports and it annoys me. Sony isnít magical they cant reduce costs without cutting somewhere and you have the option to purchase the higher priced unit if you want everything else!

Why am I addressing it to you Tyrion well because although we donít always agree you are always on the ball with the strategy of Sony and I feel that I have given you a hard time over your defence of Sony but at last you were proven right, and I hold my hands up and say that the possibility of Sonyís (This Gen) reign has now begun and I was wrong.
tyrion 18 Oct 2007 09:00
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haritori wrote:
Why am I addressing it to you Tyrion well because although we donít always agree you are always on the ball with the strategy of Sony and I feel that I have given you a hard time over your defence of Sony but at last you were proven right, and I hold my hands up and say that the possibility of Sonyís (This Gen) reign has now begun and I was wrong.

Thanks for the sentiments; I've often found that if I speak against the Internet group-think, I'm accused of being a fan boy, even when I'm just pointing out the fallacy of the arguments used.

It's true I've defended Sony a lot recently, but that's really only due to the current wave of hatred against them bringing the stupid arguments to the fore. I've "attacked" and "defended" Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo where I felt it was necessary.

As to Sony's reign beginning, we'll have to wait and see. I'm still anticipating a 40/30/30% PS3/360/Wii split when all's said and done on this generation.

Sony have a lot of inertia to overcome and I just can't see the PS3 selling the same numbers that its older brothers did. With high unit costs and high dev costs, there are fewer users to sell expensive games to. Publishers are hedging their bets. This price cut will help, but the PS3 has a long way to go.

The 360 is not as forward looking as the PS3 technologically, so we're going to see more devs complaining about the restrictions it imposes and this will affect the quality and numbers of games. The hardware sales slowdown has already started for the 360 and the Wii has already passed it on total units sold worldwide.

The Wii is deliberately underpowered and so doesn't need an update hardware-wise to compete, but it has the whiff of the Breville toaster* about it. Recently the President of Enterbrain (publishers of Famitsu and collectors of sales data in Japan) said that 67% of Japanese Wii owners are not playing regularly.

This is, in my estimation, going to be a slow sales generation, all three consoles have reasons to sell and reasons to whither. In the end, I think the PlayStation brand and the longevity of Sony's consoles will push the PS3 to the fore, but it may be too late since I'm sure the next Xbox is only a few years away and Wii2 can't be that far behind it.

*For those that don't know, a Breville toaster is a sandwich toaster used to make "hot pocket" like snacks, it's a device that gets bought, used a lot then ignored and eventually thrown out. Most UK kitchens have one, but nobody can remember the last time it was used. Except students, who live on the snacks it produces.
rockleex 18 Oct 2007 11:27
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Bentley, PS3 is not next gen just because the 40gb don't have backwards compatibility?

Oh, I guess that means 360 isn't next gen either.

You can't stand the thought of disc error when you try to play PS2 games on 40gb PS3?

Well buy a 60gb or 80gb then.

Oh, and I guess you probably can stand the red ring of death from your 360 if you have one.

Sony actually made 40gb for the people who can't afford a PS3, but wants to move to next gen real quick. So its their choice.

The 360 has around 4 different cores for different prices, yet how come no one complains about that?

You and other people who complain about Sony 24/7 will never be satisfied no matter what Sony decides to do.
rockleex 18 Oct 2007 11:37
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Daemon, Sony is NOT taking out backwards compatibility out of all its cores.

Sony is only taking it out of the 40gb version to make it cheaper... Sony will always keep two different cores, the cheaper one and the more expensive one.

Its not a strategy to get more sales. If they WERE planning to do what you said, then they would've taken out backwards compatibility out of the other PS3s.

Sony will never do that, because they believe the REAL reason why people want a PS3 is because of all of its features and reliability.

The main reason for the 40gb is so that cheap people can afford it... without all the features.

So if you want backwards compatibility, 5 years from now, Sony will STILL have PS3's out that have backwards compatibility.
YenRug 18 Oct 2007 14:40
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rockleex wrote:
Daemon, Sony is NOT taking out backwards compatibility out of all its cores.

Sony is only taking it out of the 40gb version to make it cheaper... Sony will always keep two different cores, the cheaper one and the more expensive one.

Its not a strategy to get more sales. If they WERE planning to do what you said, then they would've taken out backwards compatibility out of the other PS3s.

Sony will never do that, because they believe the REAL reason why people want a PS3 is because of all of its features and reliability.

The main reason for the 40gb is so that cheap people can afford it... without all the features.

So if you want backwards compatibility, 5 years from now, Sony will STILL have PS3's out that have backwards compatibility.


I take it you failed to read the statement from the head of Sony Europe saying that the 40GB non-BC machine is going to be the only system once the current 60GB models sell through, then? The one where he said that from now on there would be no further BC support?

No?

Oh well, better go to the shops and buy yourself some Humble Pie before reading this piece:

http://news.spong.com/article/13955
Joji 18 Oct 2007 16:56
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I'll tell you why people hate on Sony, because they fxxk up more than a fxxked motha fxxcker. They need to get their bs together and fast.

I too will beat up or praise any of the big three, as and when they deserve it. Sony are all over the place, like a drunk on shift at a brewery. They are sowing the seeds of their downfall and its been a long time coming.

Paint it as rosey as I once did for GC, but PS3 is last place and it will be for this gen. I don't think Blu Ray isn't gonna be enough to save them this time. It won't be long til the 360 HD-DVD player gets a fat price cut in response to this PS3 40gb. Just watch on the run up the xmas, if not the January sales. Good games will come to PS3, but IMO it won't be enough to save it, not even FFXIII or MGS, when fresh IP like Lost Odyssey and Mass Effect etc are being created.

This whole thing feels like the PSP all over again. When the PS3's first year is up, I expect the situation won't have changed much. End of 08 it will be too late. 360 and Wii are both too much for Sony to battle and that fact will be enough will seal their fate, let alone their own debacles.







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