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ozfunghi
Joined 18 Oct 2004
283 comments
Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:18
DoctorDee wrote:
ozfunghi wrote:
Yes, the fact about PSP selling software in the UK. I noticed that interesting yet highly irrelevant little fact.


But not as irrelevant as sales in Belgium, eh?




lol,

no, not THAT irrelevant... but than again, i never claimed they were relevant. Unlike you did.
ozfunghi
Joined 18 Oct 2004
283 comments
Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:20
Could you please post where you got those figures, and what territorry they are from, or did you pull 'm out of your "arrière"? :)

Also funny how you obviously haven't read a word i said either. Isn't that a requirement to work for Spong nowadays? :)


EDIT: oh, Spong readers made that, ok. PS3 didn't launch to my knowledge. When you have some actual facts, please post. Or are the mods going to hide behind this rediculous "Ohme gOD! PsPz teh Suck" / fanboy/ bias argument without bringing anything to the table themselves?
ozfunghi
Joined 18 Oct 2004
283 comments
Wed, 14 Jun 2006 14:57
This was supposed to be an EDIT in the previous post, but when i posted, time was up:

Nevermind. Obviously it's too hard to admit that PSP's software sales aren't exactly "on fire" GLOBALLY, meaning Sony's PSP profits aren't exactly "on fire" either, GLOBALLY. And if someone actually can prove this, or even just mentions this, that must clearly mean "Oh me goD, HeZ teh fanbOYzorz!!11!!!".

And if Dee was getting his figures from both Japanese and UK figures, i wonder if he actually bothered to take a look at Japanese software sales. So i hardly find my statements "unfounded/groundless", yet Dee's statements were rather mildly relevant. And on a sidenote, UK is NOT representative of European sales. In Europe Xbox beat GCN mildly, but in the UK GCN got shunned after 2 years. UK has always been more of a Sega-minded market (not Nintendo), as opposed to the rest of Europe. (Doesn't look like the UK really helped Sega claim that top spot, now did it?)

So, again, i don't have to repeat what i said in my first post in order for it to be true. It just is. Maybe the news hadn't penetrated the UK yet, and therefor i'm sorry to be the one that had to burst your bubble.
OptimusP
Joined 13 Apr 2005
1174 comments
Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:40
To add my note to sales numbers: only sales in Japan are know to the fullest (with a 70% accuracy), Europe is to fragmented to make any sense and generalising one area to whole Europe doesn't really work either (example, of the 6 million copies of Nintendogs sold in the world, half of those are sold in Europe and half of those In France alone... if we would generalise France as representative for Europe, Nintendo would have sold 6 million copies of Nintendogs in Europe alone!) and the US is stuck with the NPD who are pricks + Sony hides a lot of its numbers when it comes to the PSP.

What is known? When Sony said it SHIPPED 10 million PSP's, some people put the known sold numbers togheter, did some generalising and came to the conclusion that Sony had at that time only sold 6- 6.5 million PSP's, millions of PSP just sitting in stock collectiing dust. There is still strong believe that this is still going on, millions of PSP's just collecting dust and that number is getting bigger (some are even saying that Sony could be buying back its stock to boost salesnumbers).
Why think that? Because the hardware:game ratio in the VS is at 0.5... meaning, for every 2 PSP's shipped there's 1 PSP-game sold!! Or Sony is overshipping itself, or is lying about shipments.

The PSP sells good (second place overall, that can't be bad) but everyone has to remember it's being sold AT A LOSS! and the games aren't selling good enough to recoup that and the movies...well they sell even more pispoor. From a pure financial standpoint, yeah the PSP is teh Do0MeD!!!!!1111 whatever.

Oh yes, NPD has released numbers for May, peculiar comparison... the DS Lite sells in one week (in May) in Japan more then the Xbox360 in a month (May) in the VS (as a market probably twice as big as Japan)
Dreadknux
Joined 14 Jul 2004
700 comments
Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:03
ozfunghi wrote:
You would do well to READ what has been said. I'm no fanboy, i merely stated facts. I don't see how you come to the conclusion of "DoctorDee for the win" since he has yet to make a valid point to counter my statements.

I also never said the PSP sucks. I also never made a statement in a childish manner you would like to have people believe. In the contrary, i said it has a bright future ahead. I merely said it isn't selling SOFTWARE like it could RIGHT NOW, and that the unit is still sold at a loss and it isn't bringing Sony A LOT of profit AT THIS POINT. If you argue with that, fine, but it won't be me that is the fanboy.

PS: see how out-of-date the sales are in the links provided above.

PPS: Also, this would never have turned into yet another pointless debate of "ONOS PSP teh suk!" had Dee not blown it out of proportion, screaming bloody murder with zero facts backing up his nonsensical gibberish.


... wow. You really care don't you? I mean, you really, really care. Bless. Fine, I'll respond to you seeings as you took my post about as wrongly as one could have taken it.

If you bothered to read my post in the first place, you'll notice I never referred to you as a fanboy. I never referred to anyone as a fanboy. Hell, I never mentioned anyone or intended to hint towards anyone in my post. My 'conclusion' as you put it was in fact a comment. If I had made any kind of conclusion, don't you think I'd have been a bit more concise about it? In fact, I completely tried to change the subject - you know, back on track. You seemed to have put paid to that though. Cheers.

Bear in mind you can have a go at Dee all you like, but you've not exactly been providing any facts whatsoever yourself. And I'm hardly taking sides here, I'm just a passive objective observer - at least, until you unnecessarily got me involved. :P

In conclusion my point, if you - as you clearly say - 'READ my post', was the futile point of arguing PSP's viability in the market. It's clearly doing better than Nintendo's past competition, and it's not exactly going down the hole. Yes, it is making a loss (which was SPOnG's entire argument anyway so arguing against them on that front was a waste of time wasn't it) but it's not exactly in trouble. It's only in real trouble when developers start pulling out and even Sony start being apathetic to its handheld. At this moment in time, Sony might be getting their asses handed to them in terms of sales (or not, I don't have the complete figures obviously), but Sony are still fighting for it with plenty of marketing (as bad as it is) and they still have plenty of dev support (no, UMD movie support doesn't count). So I'd say Sony isn't completely lost yet.

It seems most places I go to anything regarding PSP is met with how badly people talk about it. Now, the keen eyed amongst us would have noticed the fanboy "ONOS teh suk!" comment was in fact sarcasm. Funny, because when I saw you use sarcasm in your last posts there I was under the impression that someone outside Britain actually understood the concept. How wrong I was. :P

I merely said it isn't selling SOFTWARE like it could RIGHT NOW, and that the unit is still sold at a loss and it isn't bringing Sony A LOT of profit AT THIS POINT

And it took you that long to be concise about it? You do know that yourself and Doctor Dee have been on pretty much the exact same side of the argument then?

Not getting involved anymore, said my bit, got accused for some reason, putting it right, sodding off now. I don't wish to be discussing this until my pension comes. (That was sarcasm, by the way ;))

EDIT: FYI I've got nothing against you ozfunghi. ^_- I just had to back myself up somewhat. XP Looks like the whole thing's been resolved somewhat anyway. ^^
warbaby
Joined 8 Mar 2005
142 comments
Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:14
How does it feel in the morning when you look at yourself in the mirror and realize you were arguing portable video game sales on the internet...

Let it be, who cares... buy both, play both, buy one, buy none. Sometimes you've just gotta sit down and play some SNES... enjoy it, in 100 years we will all be dead.
thane_jaw
Joined 29 Sep 2005
236 comments
Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:06
config wrote:

00.61% Commodore Amiga



Holy smokes batman, the Amiga is still kicking? Damn, wish I hadn't let my dad get rid of it now.

Commodore FTW!
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Thu, 15 Jun 2006 02:28
thane_jaw wrote:
config wrote:

00.61% Commodore Amiga



Holy smokes batman, the Amiga is still kicking? Damn, wish I hadn't let my dad get rid of it now.

Commodore FTW!


I'm loading up an old copy of Dungeon Master to make that percentage valid. HA! Screw you all!
config
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2088 comments
Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:22
ozfunghi wrote:
Could you please post where you got those figures, and what territorry they are from, or did you pull 'm out of your "arrière"? :)

Also funny how you obviously haven't read a word i said either. Isn't that a requirement to work for Spong nowadays? :)

...
I posted figures with a little sideways comment up front, nothing more or less. Seems someone's got a flee their butt.
ozfunghi wrote:

EDIT: oh, Spong readers made that, ok. PS3 didn't launch to my knowledge. When you have some actual facts, please post. Or are the mods going to hide behind this rediculous "Ohme gOD! PsPz teh Suck" / fanboy/ bias argument without bringing anything to the table themselves?


They are facts, you freekin' nutball!

SPOnG readers didn't "make" anything - they're actual figures based on readership of SPOnG game pages. It's a fair representation of our reader's interest/anticipation for each platform.

Of course, it's only a representation of interest, hence the irony-laden commentary - but you didn't get that, did you?
config
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2088 comments
Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:30
warbaby wrote:
Sometimes you've just gotta sit down and play some SNES... enjoy it, in 100 years we will all be dead.


Speak for yourself, dude. I'm gonna live forevaaaarrr. Bawahahahaha.

Oh, and I never play SNES. Must be a defective gene, or perhaps the fact that the Amiga r00lorz.
config
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2088 comments
Thu, 15 Jun 2006 08:33
thane_jaw wrote:
config wrote:

00.61% Commodore Amiga


Holy smokes batman, the Amiga is still kicking? Damn, wish I hadn't let my dad get rid of it now.

Commodore FTW!


Just readership, my man. Sadly, not sales. What I'd give for an OS that didn't need a CPU so large it burns up more fossil fuels than the average Humvee...
thane_jaw
Joined 29 Sep 2005
236 comments
Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:31
Even though my Amiga 500 went into matrix mode when I did the fearsome Atlantic Accelerator Mission I can't say that I've enjoyed any games playing device as much, although towards the end I guess I got my kicks out of AP more then the games (particularily slating Future whenever there was an opportunity and referring to Amiga action as "Michael Jackson", although I guess that was more to do with me having nothing to play and AP having nothing to write about) . I've tried using emulator software to recreate the fun, but having the attention span of a gnat gave up after a couple of hours and played Flashback instead.

Anyhoo, shame it was only readership.
DoctorDee
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2130 comments
Tue, 20 Jun 2006 08:17
thane_jaw wrote:
Amiga 500... I can't say that I've enjoyed any games playing device as much


Me neither. Though "Dyson in 'likes Amiga' shocker" is hardly news.

although towards the end I guess I got my kicks out of AP more then the games


Me too. Though obviously, it was me they were kicking.
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