Apple's iPhone Get Nintendo Emulator

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Joji
Joined 12 Mar 2004
3960 comments
Tue, 7 Aug 2007 17:26
I wonder how much more we'll see Nintendo and Apple hook up, thoughy not official?

When this gets a SNES and MD emu then I'm all over it. Would be a nice aleternate to PSP and all that update crap.
Rutabaga
Joined 22 Sep 2006
271 comments
Tue, 7 Aug 2007 23:56
Joji wrote:
When this gets a SNES and MD emu then I'm all over it. Would be a nice aleternate to PSP and all that update crap.

Is it possible for you to comment on any subject and not somehow spin it round into a Sony dig? Who's paying you? And lets analyse your comment shall I. You'd be happy to chuck £400 on a phone play SNES and MD games. Yet your on these forums daily commenting on how bad / evil / greedily expensive the PS3 is. Hypocrisy?
Hypnotoad
Joined 5 Aug 2005
127 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 01:15
Rutabaga wrote:
Is it possible for you to comment on any subject and not somehow spin it round into a Sony dig? Who's paying you? And lets analyse your comment shall I. You'd be happy to chuck £400 on a phone play SNES and MD games. Yet your on these forums daily commenting on how bad / evil / greedily expensive the PS3 is. Hypocrisy?

/concur
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 01:56
As opposed those who make it a point to use any subject as an excuse to make anti-MS comments? puhleeze. Joji could make one anti-Sony comment a day and the PS3 would be on its fourth controller revision by the time an equitable balance of rhetoric was achieved. 'Course during that time we'd still have to listen to crap about how "360's inevitably explode if you put them on or under anything or look at them crosseyed (But since my PS2 never had any problems obviously there couldn't have been a problem with them...)"

News Flash:I know someone who needed 3 tries to get a working PS2 (1st one video problem, 2nd one dvd drive) and my original 360 is still working fine, so by your (deeply flawed) logic there is no problem with the 360...I forget who came up with that particular bit of nonsense.
tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:01
PreciousRoi wrote:
News Flash:I know someone who needed 3 tries to get a working PS2 (1st one video problem, 2nd one dvd drive) and my original 360 is still working fine, so by your (deeply flawed) logic there is no problem with the 360...I forget who came up with that particular bit of nonsense.

I read a great quote once that covers this subject, can't remember who it's by, but here goes.

Someone cleverer than me wrote:
The plural of anecdote is not data.

The PS2 had serious issues with DVD read errors early on in its life. This was mostly fixed by the time the PS2 hit Europe. This means that US early adopters and EU early adopters have different anecdotes. However, there was a problem, a "class action lawsuit" level problem.

The Xbox 360 had (and still has in general) serious issue with overheating. This will probably be fixed with the new heatsink arrangement and the smaller process chipset (Falcon). Not everybody has had the problems so anecdotes differ. However, there is a problem, a "warranty extended from 90 days to 3 years across the board" level problem.

Can we all just accept those facts, never mind personal experience, and move on? The PS2 had a dicky DVD drive early on, the 360 currently overheats and locks up.
Rutabaga
Joined 22 Sep 2006
271 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:04
PreciousRoi wrote:
As opposed those who make it a point to use any subject as an excuse to make anti-MS comments? puhleeze. Joji could make one anti-Sony comment a day and the PS3 would be on its fourth controller revision by the time an equitable balance of rhetoric was achieved. 'Course during that time we'd still have to listen to crap about how "360's inevitably explode if you put them on or under anything or look at them crosseyed (But since my PS2 never had any problems obviously there couldn't have been a problem with them...)"

News Flash:I know someone who needed 3 tries to get a working PS2 (1st one video problem, 2nd one dvd drive) and my original 360 is still working fine, so by your (deeply flawed) logic there is no problem with the 360...I forget who came up with that particular bit of nonsense.

What the hell are you talking about? Where the hell have I slagged the 360 off? Care to point it out? The news article was about the iPhone getting a nes emulator, Joji comments on this as is par for the course in his usual way but feeling the need to have an unrelated dig at the PSP. I pointed out his hypocrisy. Why did you feel the need to twist this into some made up 360 rant?
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:46
yeah, that was precisely my point. Couldn't remember the whole anecdotal evidence quote thingy though.
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 08:59
notice in abovequotated post, I never once single you out as one "those" who slag the 360 off, so yer off base there, that was neither my form, not intent.

however I will argue the following. Joji's comment was neither unrelated, nor hypocritical. (at least not im my understanding of the word hypocritical, is yours different? In my understanding of the word someone might be a hypocrite if say...they chastised someone for constantly criticising one company while failing to chastise others who do the same ;) ) The iPhone and PSP are both portable/handheld multifunctional devices so its not as though there is no basis for comparison. And its not as though the PSP isn't deserving of criticism.

Rutabaga
Joined 22 Sep 2006
271 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:21
PreciousRoi wrote:
notice in abovequotated post, I never once single you out as one "those" who slag the 360 off, so yer off base there, that was neither my form, not intent.

By clicking Reply it appeared your comment was directed at me. Care to explain this then "so by your (deeply flawed) logic there is no problem with the 360" Who was that directed at?

PreciousRoi wrote:
however I will argue the following. Joji's comment was neither unrelated, nor hypocritical. (at least not im my understanding of the word hypocritical, is yours different?

So you cant see the hypocrisy in constantly moaning about how expensive a PS3 is yet an iPhone that will cost around the same will happy to be "all over it".

PreciousRoi wrote:
In my understanding of the word someone might be a hypocrite if say...they chastised someone for constantly criticising one company while failing to chastise others who do the same ;) )

Quite, so I can leave you to correct the Sony bashers then?

One thing why has this news article like so many articles moved off topic, it's about a crummy NES emulator for the iPhone for god sake!
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 09:38
Rutabaga wrote:
By clicking Reply it appeared your comment was directed at me.
obviously it was. doesn't mean you can assume that the 'those' I was talking about was 'you'. Trust me, if I meant you, I'd have made it quite clear.

Rutabega wrote:

So you cant see the hypocrisy in constantly moaning about how expensive a PS3 is yet an iPhone that will cost around the same will happy to be "all over it".
Yeah, I saw that about 16 min. after I posted...course you buried the relavant bit in as bunch of irrelevant terms like bad and evil, had you just left it as 'greedily expensive' it would have been more clear what you meant. It was difficult to see that you meant to specifically single out the expense bit as hypocrisy, since you were criticising him for bashing Sony across the board.

rutabega wrote:
One thing why has this news article like so many articles moved off topic, it's about a crummy NES emulator for the iPhone
dunno, Joji made a completely relevant and reasonable comment. It was actually your comment which marked the breakoff of relevance with the original topic, by making it about Joji.
Rutabaga
Joined 22 Sep 2006
271 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 10:00
PreciousRoi wrote:
doesn't mean you can assume that the 'those' I was talking about was 'you'. Trust me, if I meant you, I'd have made it quite clear.
Care to explain this then "so by your (deeply flawed) logic there is no problem with the 360"

PreciousRoi wrote:
Yeah, I saw that about 16 min. after I posted...course you buried the relavant bit in as bunch of irrelevant terms like bad and evil, had you just left it as 'greedily expensive' it would have been more clear what you meant. It was difficult to see that you meant to specifically single out the expense bit as hypocrisy, since you were criticising him for bashing Sony across the board.
How convenient.

PreciousRoi wrote:
dunno, Joji made a completely relevant and reasonable comment. It was actually your comment which marked the breakoff of relevance with the original topic, by making it about Joji.
Er... your blinkered unrelated defence of the 360 seemed to mark a turning point
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 10:34
oh, that...that was directed, at someone else who, in another thread, attempted to use personal anectodal evidendce to discount PlayStation failures.

Now as to the 'turning point'.

I'm gonna have to stick with your first post, which had nothing to do with the iPhone, NES emulator, or anything aside from Joji's post as it relates to Sony and other posts he's made. My 'blinkered defense of the 360' as I have stated above was a sarcastic mirror of a similar comment made by one of 'those people', the intention not to 'defend the 360', rather, that personal anecdotal evidence is, if not meaningless, unusable as empirical evidence. (As obviously there IS a problem with the 360, despite the fact that I (nor anyone I know) have not been affected by it...only problems I have personal experience with are disc read errors which are bad enough)
Rutabaga
Joined 22 Sep 2006
271 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:04
PreciousRoi wrote:
oh, that...that was directed, at someone else who, in another thread, attempted to use personal anectodal evidendce to discount PlayStation failures.
...Right. And you had a go at me for making my initial point unclear with "a bunch of irrelevant terms" That wouldn't be hypocrisy would it?

PreciousRoi wrote:
Now as to the 'turning point'. I'm gonna have to stick with your first post, which had nothing to do with the iPhone, NES emulator, or anything aside from Joji's post as it relates to Sony and other posts he's made. ...
You dont get it do you. My post was directly related to Joji's post. In that way it was on topic. I posed some questions relating to his initial post They were directed at JOJI NOT YOU. Why did you feel the need to respond in "defence" of him with totally unrelated points about the 360? Therefore hijacking/twisting this thread into this off topic mess.

In summary would Joji be kind enough to respond to my hypocrisy question? (And roy please let Joji answer)
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:03
Actually, you didn't 'pose some questions related to his original post'.

You posed two questions right off the bat that had almost nothing to do with his original post. Your final question related not only to his orginal post, but to others hes made in the recent past.

And it was certainly the first two questions (quite obviously of an inflammatory nature) which provoked my resonse. Not neccessarily in 'defense of Joji' it was actually more of an attack upon your own choice of singling him out. Your implied assertion that I am somehow keeping Joji from answering you is patently ridiculous, he is and has been free to make any comments he deems neccessary.

Once I again I assert that it was in fact yourself who made the discussion about everything but the iPhone and NES emulator, by bringing up the subject of Joji's other posts relating to the PS3.
Rutabaga
Joined 22 Sep 2006
271 comments
Wed, 8 Aug 2007 12:39
PreciousRoi wrote:
Once I again I assert that it was in fact yourself who made the discussion about everything but the iPhone and NES emulator, by bringing up the subject of Joji's other posts relating to the PS3.

Where as you brought up subjects i'd never mentioned intertwined with comments about points other people had made i unrelated threads.

Joji's initial post suggested that an iPhone with a Snes & MD emulator was an nice alternative to a PSP. To which I found preposterous (if anything an iPhone with games would be more an alternative to the DS, no?) That together with him commenting on every single Sony news story in a mostly negative way led me to pose those questions. Joji singles himself out with his constant moaning about the PS3 being so expensive on an almost daily basis, which made me ask a question about being hypocritical. I cant see how it was off topic and the more you reply and the more I reply to you moves us further away from my initial question.
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