JFK shooting game – A collection of hysteria
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Topic started: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:08
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Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:27
Well, I downloaded the demo and, to my shock and awe, the game appears to be complete garbage.
It doesn't take a genius to figure that a game based around the actions the "lone gunman" aren't going to make for a very good game. The replay value alone is in the single figures.
Of course, it was just the demo, so I didn't even get to pull the trigger, but the graphics were dull, the framerate unwatchable and the lack of mindless cheering crowds hogging the curb-side makes for a very empty "arena"
Still, you do get to blow the head off a president - something a lot of terrorists are apparently eager to do (according to the, um, oh!, the US Government)
On top of that, you'll also get ot prove that there's no way Oswald could have made that fateful shot, so I guess the competition prize money is safe...
It doesn't take a genius to figure that a game based around the actions the "lone gunman" aren't going to make for a very good game. The replay value alone is in the single figures.
Of course, it was just the demo, so I didn't even get to pull the trigger, but the graphics were dull, the framerate unwatchable and the lack of mindless cheering crowds hogging the curb-side makes for a very empty "arena"
Still, you do get to blow the head off a president - something a lot of terrorists are apparently eager to do (according to the, um, oh!, the US Government)
On top of that, you'll also get ot prove that there's no way Oswald could have made that fateful shot, so I guess the competition prize money is safe...
Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:41
In poor taste perhaps, but sticking it to the man.
Main thing is the developers are not hurting anyone, because it's just game, even though it features JFK.
Get over it people.
Main thing is the developers are not hurting anyone, because it's just game, even though it features JFK.
Get over it people.
Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:49
Most Americans like to rant about shoot'em up games, irreverence towards dead presidents, the decline of Western Civilization, etc. The thrill of being shocked or outraged is better than drugs (which we use extensively but keep illegal--another thrill here is "forbidden fruit).
Blaming "society" and foreigners is another kick; you don't love America, then git out! We saved you from them Nazis and you all don't appreciate us.
I've been rereading Josephus and the comparison between America and Imperial Rome is starting to seem vaguely compelling; we're just like the Romans, only retarded. Sort of a "special" Empire.
Blaming "society" and foreigners is another kick; you don't love America, then git out! We saved you from them Nazis and you all don't appreciate us.
I've been rereading Josephus and the comparison between America and Imperial Rome is starting to seem vaguely compelling; we're just like the Romans, only retarded. Sort of a "special" Empire.
Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:52
I was wonder where SPOnG went just now.
You guys were on the front of Google News!! This story! No wonder you were slow!
Well done guys, now get better servers next time, eh? :-)
You guys were on the front of Google News!! This story! No wonder you were slow!
Well done guys, now get better servers next time, eh? :-)
Tue, 23 Nov 2004 20:40
Talk about vapid, moronic nonsense. Your understanding of americans, american culture and the general state of the world is shallow and unfortunately, typical of the current generation of europeans. To think that the objections to this game comes from right wing americans is absurd. This is just a violent, despicable videogame that capitalizes on a terrible american tragedy. There is nothing political about it. How about a game recreating the death of Princess Di? Grow up!!!
Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:29
Sponge's take on the JFK game is all wrong. Just as the U.S. saved half the world from speaking German and the other half from speaking Japanese, the U.S. isn't trying to "get richer." The operation in Iraq is costing billions of dollars, and the money obtained from the sale of their oil is being accounted for far more accurately than it ever has been before. If Sponge thinks the U.S. is getting richer, they're crazier than the makers of JFK Reloaded is. No, it isn't any of that at all. Right now, the U.S. is trying to keep ultra-murderous and super-hate-filled extremists from obtaining nukes (and similar, nasty things), parking them in front of Sponge's offices and setting them off. Or, was there something about 9/11 which escapes Sponge? That's why games like JFK Reloaded are bad, no matter how "bad" they are.
Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:34
Sure jack, belive the media and effective propaganda. No the U.S. isnt getting richer, sheesh what are you taking son? I dont want a politics debate but damn. They spend Billions of dollars on a war, but war in turn brings more money in than is spent. WWII saved America from the depression.
Im afraid im going to have to label you a SUCKER and order you to not belive everything you see on TV.
Back on topic... I have no stance on this game, i feel its reasonable and no worse than many many other bloody games. People reinact the assassination many times in documentries, why not be able to reinact it yourself? Hardly something to get in a fuss over.
Im afraid im going to have to label you a SUCKER and order you to not belive everything you see on TV.
Back on topic... I have no stance on this game, i feel its reasonable and no worse than many many other bloody games. People reinact the assassination many times in documentries, why not be able to reinact it yourself? Hardly something to get in a fuss over.
Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:42
I agree. Our nation has been duped good and proper. If you think all the money spent on the invasion and ongoing crushing of insurgents (armed with weapons we paid for!) is going to flatten the economy, you just have to think happy thoughts about the many more billions in revenue that will come in thanks to the carefully negotiated deals to rebuild Iraq and, lets not forget, the oil waiting to be pumped out of the ground!
Tue, 23 Nov 2004 23:51
Jack Dolcette wrote:
Right now, the U.S. is trying to keep ultra-murderous and super-hate-filled extremists from obtaining nukes (and similar, nasty things), parking them in front of Sponge's offices and setting them off. Or, was there something about 9/11 which escapes Sponge?
The US has used the deaths of those 3000 people to massacre so many more, in fact, no one really knows how many Iraqi civiilians they have killed. Now there are reports of the US using napalm against people in Fallujah, so the US are using chemical weapons against the Iraqis, just like their buddy Saddamn did.
Before you start whining about 'civilian deaths being accidental', or '9/11 changed everything', or 'they were all terrorists, they got what they deserved', expose your poorly uninformed noggin to something other than Fox News.
"Everyone's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way - stop participating in it."
Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:00
Elite,
It sounds like you are the one believing the media. If you pay any attention to them, you'll be talking like Sponge in no time (which you are doing, incidentally). The media "elite" (no offense, Elite) are doing their best to convince you and Sponge the war is 110% greed and 0% anti-terrorists. Just check the research. More than 70% of the stories are anti-Bush/Blair and the editorials are even worse. Better yet, watch a video or two of those beheadings and then ask yourself, would you mind if that killer had a nuke?
As for the game, life imitates art all the time. There have already been several shootings (killings) whose perpetrators later say "the game made them do it" (GTA, etc). You want to talk greed (as Sponge does)? The makers of JFK Reloaded are about as greedy as they get, without morals, standards or common sense of any kind. Just as long as the game sells, they don't care who gets hurt or why.
It sounds like you are the one believing the media. If you pay any attention to them, you'll be talking like Sponge in no time (which you are doing, incidentally). The media "elite" (no offense, Elite) are doing their best to convince you and Sponge the war is 110% greed and 0% anti-terrorists. Just check the research. More than 70% of the stories are anti-Bush/Blair and the editorials are even worse. Better yet, watch a video or two of those beheadings and then ask yourself, would you mind if that killer had a nuke?
As for the game, life imitates art all the time. There have already been several shootings (killings) whose perpetrators later say "the game made them do it" (GTA, etc). You want to talk greed (as Sponge does)? The makers of JFK Reloaded are about as greedy as they get, without morals, standards or common sense of any kind. Just as long as the game sells, they don't care who gets hurt or why.
Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:24
" Just as the U.S. saved half the world from speaking German and the other half from speaking Japanese"
Actually the Russians won the war - had they not sacrificed 30 million people (as opposed to 11 million for everyone else combined), Germany would have been able to invade Britain. Had Germany invaded Britain, they almost certainly would have developed the atomic bomb before the Amercans - since the only thing that stopped them from doing so were British Special Operations against heavy water plants in Norway. After dropping a few on the States, you lot would have become a Nazi state as well. Of course America helped win the war, but the idea that you won it singlehandly as a altruistic gesture for Europe with no benefits for yourself is factually incorrect, and really symbolises the kind of American arrogance that really winds everyone else up! Americans forget that America wan't the superpower it is now, and that its Army had only been in existance for a few of decades. Your contribution was hardly more significant than Canada's, a country who didn't need to be attacked first before taking a stand against the Nazis - you don't see them, the Russians or the British claiming that 'they won the war' singlehandedly, do you? Yours was a significant contribution to a group effort, its possible that without you d-day wouldn't have happened - but neither would it have happened without the British, the Canadaians and certainly not without the enormous sacrifices of the Russians.
Actually the Russians won the war - had they not sacrificed 30 million people (as opposed to 11 million for everyone else combined), Germany would have been able to invade Britain. Had Germany invaded Britain, they almost certainly would have developed the atomic bomb before the Amercans - since the only thing that stopped them from doing so were British Special Operations against heavy water plants in Norway. After dropping a few on the States, you lot would have become a Nazi state as well. Of course America helped win the war, but the idea that you won it singlehandly as a altruistic gesture for Europe with no benefits for yourself is factually incorrect, and really symbolises the kind of American arrogance that really winds everyone else up! Americans forget that America wan't the superpower it is now, and that its Army had only been in existance for a few of decades. Your contribution was hardly more significant than Canada's, a country who didn't need to be attacked first before taking a stand against the Nazis - you don't see them, the Russians or the British claiming that 'they won the war' singlehandedly, do you? Yours was a significant contribution to a group effort, its possible that without you d-day wouldn't have happened - but neither would it have happened without the British, the Canadaians and certainly not without the enormous sacrifices of the Russians.
Wed, 24 Nov 2004 00:38
Yet, there's no McKinley assassination simulator coming out? Where's the justice!?
Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:01
R_Nixon wrote:
" Just as the U.S. saved half the world from speaking German and the other half from speaking Japanese"
... but the idea that you won it singlehandly as a altruistic gesture for Europe with no benefits for yourself is factually incorrect...
I did not get detailed enough to prevent you from concluding that was my inference, and so I certainly don't agree with your statement. I do, however, wholly concur Hitler's attack on Russia, and their fight-to-the-death response, was pivotal. And yes, British Special Forces played a crucial role in preventing the Nazis from furthering their goals, however had there not been a U.S. shipping thousands of tons of food, medicine, oil, ammunition and raw materials a week to the UK (and to Russia and everywhere else on Earth), there might not have been a British Special Forces to act.
The point is that all of this "history" is sorely lacking in Sponge's awareness. Some obviously don't see it, but WWIII definitely has had its seed planted and the roots are taking hold. The fanatics (you know the ones, the ones among the "civilians" being slaughtered with "napalm"), will stop at nothing until every "infidel" is dead. That goes for you, me, Sponge and even SpongeBob for that matter. They have long had it in their hearts to kill, kill, kill and kill again, until every non-Muslim and even every Muslim not as fanatic as they are stone-cold dead. They have felt this way long before the Iraq war and long before 9/11. It is just that now, the U.S. is trying to kill them before they kill all the rest of us first.
If the entire world actually listened to people who think like Sponge, then it wouldn't be very long before nukes started going off in as many cities as they could get them into. To assume otherwise is blind. To believe these people are not best dealt with now, by whatever means possible and wherever they are, is stupidity. The civilized world is in for the fight of its life, but only a few seem to realize it.
... but the idea that you won it singlehandly as a altruistic gesture for Europe with no benefits for yourself is factually incorrect...
I did not get detailed enough to prevent you from concluding that was my inference, and so I certainly don't agree with your statement. I do, however, wholly concur Hitler's attack on Russia, and their fight-to-the-death response, was pivotal. And yes, British Special Forces played a crucial role in preventing the Nazis from furthering their goals, however had there not been a U.S. shipping thousands of tons of food, medicine, oil, ammunition and raw materials a week to the UK (and to Russia and everywhere else on Earth), there might not have been a British Special Forces to act.
The point is that all of this "history" is sorely lacking in Sponge's awareness. Some obviously don't see it, but WWIII definitely has had its seed planted and the roots are taking hold. The fanatics (you know the ones, the ones among the "civilians" being slaughtered with "napalm"), will stop at nothing until every "infidel" is dead. That goes for you, me, Sponge and even SpongeBob for that matter. They have long had it in their hearts to kill, kill, kill and kill again, until every non-Muslim and even every Muslim not as fanatic as they are stone-cold dead. They have felt this way long before the Iraq war and long before 9/11. It is just that now, the U.S. is trying to kill them before they kill all the rest of us first.
If the entire world actually listened to people who think like Sponge, then it wouldn't be very long before nukes started going off in as many cities as they could get them into. To assume otherwise is blind. To believe these people are not best dealt with now, by whatever means possible and wherever they are, is stupidity. The civilized world is in for the fight of its life, but only a few seem to realize it.
Wed, 24 Nov 2004 01:33
Jack 'Dubya Jr.' Dolcette wrote:
If the entire world actually listened to people who think like Sponge, then it wouldn't be very long before nukes started going off in as many cities as they could get them into. To assume otherwise is blind. To believe these people are not best dealt with now, by whatever means possible and wherever they are, is stupidity. The civilized world is in for the fight of its life, but only a few seem to realize it.
you see the term 'by whatever means possible' and 'civilized' ? yeah, well they don't really go together. but I guess the worlds biggest terrorist nation leading a 'war against terror' seems kind of strange to me too.
and incase you forgot, who is the only country on this planet to use nukes against another nation ?
(I guess they had 'civilians' there too huh)
and what is this sponge you keep picking on ??
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