DS Shortages in Japan See Prices Soar

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DS Shortages in Japan See Prices Soar
There is one hot console you can't buy in Japan for love or sensible money, and it's not the Xbox 360. Chronic DS hardware shortages in the country have sent the price of used DS sets sky-rocketing in the past few weeks, with the going rate now as high as $287.

Nintendo has taken the unusual move of issuing an apology to its Japanese retail partners, assuring them that replenishments are being sent via airfreight from production facilities in China, as rampant demand for the hardware continues.

The success of the DS across the globe is a heart-warming story for gamers and the games industry in general, and will boost Nintendo's confidence in its soon-come Revolution home console. The DS's truly innovative interface proved an immediate success, birthing a massive range of games that offer true gaming delights. The addition of a brilliant online service supporting more traditional games confirmed the DS as the best performer last year, with Japanese sales figures showing it outsold the PSP by a ratio of almost 2:1.
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tyrion 11 Jan 2006 17:10
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siberdib wrote:
Its good to see the DS totally whiping the PSP in japan.

Interestingly it's completely different in the UK.

ChartTrack, via MCV, via Gamasutra say the following.

Nintendo DS having totalled 800,000 unit sales since its debut in March. Despite its delayed launch in September, the PSP has almost equaled this figure with 795,000

Note that ChartTrack figures are based on actual sales over the counter, not on ship-in figures.

I would have linked to MCV, but for some reason they have pulled the story from their site after having sent it out to their news flash email list!

So PSP sold 5,000 fewer units than DS in the UK in under half the time. It will be interesting to see how sales continue into 2006.
owarrak 11 Jan 2006 17:47
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tyrion wrote:
siberdib wrote:
Its good to see the DS totally whiping the PSP in japan.

Interestingly it's completely different in the UK.

ChartTrack, via MCV, via Gamasutra say the following.

Nintendo DS having totalled 800,000 unit sales since its debut in March. Despite its delayed launch in September, the PSP has almost equaled this figure with 795,000

Note that ChartTrack figures are based on actual sales over the counter, not on ship-in figures.

I would have linked to MCV, but for some reason they have pulled the story from their site after having sent it out to their news flash email list!

So PSP sold 5,000 fewer units than DS in the UK in under half the time. It will be interesting to see how sales continue into 2006.




To be fair, since when has Uk hardware sales ever mattered in the gaming world!! u need to look at the overall world figuers
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OptimusP 11 Jan 2006 18:05
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Problem with Chart Track is...they don't count in bundles in software and hardware rankings. And Since the Mario Kart DS and Nintendogs bundles have been repored to be very scarce... i think you can easily add up another 100 000 extra sold DS's.

Probably they dropped their piece because Nintendo and/or Sony complained. Nintendo complained because they didn't add in bundels or Sony complained because they don't want their sales numbers of the PSP going public (NPD numbers have been lacking PSP-sales very frequent)
tyrion 11 Jan 2006 18:48
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owarrak wrote:
To be fair, since when has Uk hardware sales ever mattered in the gaming world!! u need to look at the overall world figuers

Err, what? I was giving a comparison for people to go "ooh that's interesting" and "I wonder why the UK is so different to Japan?" maybe even "Those silly Brits and their graphics whore ways!"

As far as software and hardware sales go, Japan is the 3rd largest market after the US and EU, so why do people always talk about the JP hardware sales?

Well mostly because they are very easily available since Media Create publish them weekly.

Also Japan is the home country for two of the main hardware manufacturers.

But really, it's because people are interested - with the "Ooh that's interesting" comments and the like.

So, I'm sorry I so disturbed your world view by publishing actual facts that you didn't seem to find interesting, I will do it again.
owarrak 12 Jan 2006 02:55
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You missed my point, all i was talking about was getting an overall view of how well both bits of kit do, for this its better to look at world figures thats all. No need to lose ya rag about it!

tyrion wrote:
owarrak wrote:
To be fair, since when has Uk hardware sales ever mattered in the gaming world!! u need to look at the overall world figuers

Err, what? I was giving a comparison for people to go "ooh that's interesting" and "I wonder why the UK is so different to Japan?" maybe even "Those silly Brits and their graphics whore ways!"

As far as software and hardware sales go, Japan is the 3rd largest market after the US and EU, so why do people always talk about the JP hardware sales?

Well mostly because they are very easily available since Media Create publish them weekly.

Also Japan is the home country for two of the main hardware manufacturers.

But really, it's because people are interested - with the "Ooh that's interesting" comments and the like.

So, I'm sorry I so disturbed your world view by publishing actual facts that you didn't seem to find interesting, I will do it again.
tyrion 12 Jan 2006 09:08
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owarrak wrote:
You missed my point, all i was talking about was getting an overall view of how well both bits of kit do, for this its better to look at world figures thats all.

And those sorts of overall figures are only interesting to those who want to say "DS roxxors, PSP suxxors!!!!!111!!1one!!1".

Anybody who has been following the sales of the DS and PSP will be able to tell you that worldwide the DS is out-selling the PSP by quite a large margin. That's not news. Neither is the increasing size of the gap between them.

What might be interesting, and start discussions, are instances where the PSP is selling very close to the DS or, as in this case, where the PSP seems to be out-selling the DS on a monthly average basis.

owarrak wrote:
No need to lose ya rag about it!

Don't worry, I haven't lost my rag. I'm not a fanboy or a mindless bigot who goes through the roof when I find out that somebody holds a different opinion to me.

I do worry though, when I post a piece of information that I thought people would find interesting and it's met by a response that amounts to "who cares, f**k off!"
owarrak 12 Jan 2006 12:58
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Quick to accuse aren't you. why are the areas were psp is outselling the ds or even beating it interesting?!?!?!?! any1 with an ounce of common sense should be able to clearly deduce that the only reason for this, is that the regions were the above is occurring are littered with pritty picture, unimaginative graphic hungry whores!! not that there is anything wrong with likin some nice graphics!

I am not ramming the fact that the DS is outselling the PSP by a ratio of 2:1 around the world no no. As for you saying it's not news, thats laughable! think of David vs Goliath and u might understand were i am coming from!

I will keep this civilised and wont resort to being rude like some people. I'm not dismissing your comments as "who cares, f**k off". Implying this upsets me and saddens me deeply, the fact that you think people can be that nasty brings me to the conclusion your not at peace with the world. feel the love, we dont hate or criticise just put across our opinions, i was only expressing my opinion to you. but obviously you dont like other people offering their comments to you. so in future i will leave you well alone in case you cry about it.

tyrion wrote:
owarrak wrote:
You missed my point, all i was talking about was getting an overall view of how well both bits of kit do, for this its better to look at world figures thats all.

And those sorts of overall figures are only interesting to those who want to say "DS roxxors, PSP suxxors!!!!!111!!1one!!1".

Anybody who has been following the sales of the DS and PSP will be able to tell you that worldwide the DS is out-selling the PSP by quite a large margin. That's not news. Neither is the increasing size of the gap between them.

What might be interesting, and start discussions, are instances where the PSP is selling very close to the DS or, as in this case, where the PSP seems to be out-selling the DS on a monthly average basis.

owarrak wrote:
No need to lose ya rag about it!

Don't worry, I haven't lost my rag. I'm not a fanboy or a mindless bigot who goes through the roof when I find out that somebody holds a different opinion to me.

I do worry though, when I post a piece of information that I thought people would find interesting and it's met by a response that amounts to "who cares, f**k off!"
kid_77 12 Jan 2006 13:28
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owarrak wrote:
Quick to accuse aren't you. why are the areas were psp is outselling the ds or even beating it interesting?!?!?!?!

It's interesting because the UK is at odds with pretty much the rest of the world, in regards to PSP/DS sales.

And this got me thinking. Is the UK the only territory (I won't use EU, as I've never lived outside UK) the only territory without a really strong Ninty following?

Nintendo's been big in Japan ever since the NES, especially the handhelds.

This is also the case in the US. The NES positively dwarfed the Master System, and I believe the SNES marginally outsold the MD (but not to such a vast extent). And recently, although GC sales were lower than both PS2 and XB, the handhelds are still doing amazingly well.

In the UK, I don't think Ninty's ever had the market to itself - the gameboys being the exception.

- The 8-bit generation was a pretty close match, with the UK adopting the MS with enthusiasm. The NES did similarly well. But, in fact I'd say the 80s belonged to the Speccy and C64.

- The MD and SNES were pretty even-stephens too. But, again, the Amiga and ST computers were also extremely popular - probably more so than the consoles.

- Then along came Playstation, and the rest have never caught up.

So (and to my conclusion), apart from the Gameboys, Ninty have never dominated the UK market, and perhaps the current figures of PSP/ DS sales shows this trend continuing.
tyrion 12 Jan 2006 13:43
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owarrak wrote:
Quick to accuse aren't you. why are the areas were psp is outselling the ds or even beating it interesting?!?!?!?!

Well, I'd say it was interesting due to the fact that the DS is out-selling the PSP everywhere else. Exceptions are more interesting than the general trend when the general trend is well known.

owarrak wrote:
I am not ramming the fact that the DS is outselling the PSP by a ratio of 2:1 around the world no no. As for you saying it's not news, thats laughable! think of David vs Goliath and u might understand were i am coming from!

Given the domination that Nintendo holds over the hand-held market and how many other competitors have fallen by the wayside, I think you may have your characters mixed up there. Sony is David in this case and David isn't winning.

owarrak wrote:
I will keep this civilised and wont resort to being rude like some people. I'm not dismissing your comments as "who cares, f**k off".

So how would you describe your first reply to me?
owarrak wrote:
To be fair, since when has Uk hardware sales ever mattered in the gaming world!! u need to look at the overall world figuers

That sounds like a "who cares" message to me. Maybe the "f**k off" part of my response was a bit strong, but it's certainly a "who cares, tell me something I do know" message you gave out.

owarrak wrote:
Implying this upsets me and saddens me deeply, the fact that you think people can be that nasty brings me to the conclusion your not at peace with the world. feel the love, we dont hate or criticise just put across our opinions, i was only expressing my opinion to you. but obviously you dont like other people offering their comments to you.

Quick to accuse aren't you? Have a look through some of my other postings here, I love a good discussion.

And you weren't giving your opinion, your reply to my initial post in this thread was a statement of fact couched in a question, followed by an implied instruction. Your next post was an attempt to re-state your reason for not caring, followed by a faintly insulting dismissal of the subject all together.

As for the "not at peace with the world. feel the love" bit above, I believe Cartman would refer to that as "tree hugging hippy s**t." I'm pretty happy with my position in life and certainly don't lash out at other people for fun. And if you don't believe that people can be nasty, can I ask what brand of cotton-wool your mother wrapped you up in as a child?

owarrak wrote:
so in future i will leave you well alone in case you cry about it.

Oh please don't! I do enjoy chatting with people. I'll feel all lonely and invalidated if nobody replies to my postings.
owarrak 12 Jan 2006 14:42
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tyrion wrote:
owarrak wrote:
Quick to accuse aren't you. why are the areas were psp is outselling the ds or even beating it interesting?!?!?!?!

Well, I'd say it was interesting due to the fact that the DS is out-selling the PSP everywhere else. Exceptions are more interesting than the general trend when the general trend is well known.

I have explained why it is happeneing though, its because the places were the PSP is outselling the DS is full of unimaginative graphic hungry whores!! Not interesting if u ask me

owarrak wrote:
I am not ramming the fact that the DS is outselling the PSP by a ratio of 2:1 around the world no no. As for you saying it's not news, thats laughable! think of David vs Goliath and u might understand were i am coming from!

Given the domination that Nintendo holds over the hand-held market and how many other competitors have fallen by the wayside, I think you may have your characters mixed up there. Sony is David in this case and David isn't winning.

Again u have missed my point, i was talking about pure power and "wow" factor. As in every1 expected the PSP to whipe the floor with the DS and dont say they didnt because 99% of people did. Now that is not my opinion, that is fact!

every1 was
owarrak wrote:
I will keep this civilised and wont resort to being rude like some people. I'm not dismissing your comments as "who cares, f**k off".

So how would you describe your first reply to me?
owarrak wrote:
To be fair, since when has Uk hardware sales ever mattered in the gaming world!! u need to look at the overall world figuers


Like i sed i didnt mean it in an aggressive way wat so ever. i was just giving you my opinion. if u choose to read it as aggressive that is up to you.

That sounds like a "who cares" message to me. Maybe the "f**k off" part of my response was a bit strong, but it's certainly a "who cares, tell me something I do know" message you gave out.

owarrak wrote:
Implying this upsets me and saddens me deeply, the fact that you think people can be that nasty brings me to the conclusion your not at peace with the world. feel the love, we dont hate or criticise just put across our opinions, i was only expressing my opinion to you. but obviously you dont like other people offering their comments to you.

Quick to accuse aren't you? Have a look through some of my other postings here, I love a good discussion.

And you weren't giving your opinion, your reply to my initial post in this thread was a statement of fact couched in a question, followed by an implied instruction. Your next post was an attempt to re-state your reason for not caring, followed by a faintly insulting dismissal of the subject all together.

so you are telling people if they are implyin opinion or not, very democratic there. tis was my opinion, might not have worded it the best but it was.

As for the "not at peace with the world. feel the love" bit above, I believe Cartman would refer to that as "tree hugging hippy s**t." I'm pretty happy with my position in life and certainly don't lash out at other people for fun. And if you don't believe that people can be nasty, can I ask what brand of cotton-wool your mother wrapped you up in as a child?

well wen u start to quote cartmen that says a lot about u.

owarrak wrote:
so in future i will leave you well alone in case you cry about it.

Oh please don't! I do enjoy chatting with people. I'll feel all lonely and invalidated if nobody replies to my postings.
kid_77 12 Jan 2006 15:20
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siberdib 12 Jan 2006 16:16
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I agree we here in the UK seem an anomily where the PSP is selling more than the DS. I work part time in a large UK retail chain which sells both PSP and DS. Looking at the sales figures for them both its currently very tight. Our DS sales have been hampered by the fact we cant get enough of the pink and blue ds with nintendogs bundles. If it wearnt for the shortage of those in the run up to christmas DS sales in the chain would have no doubt been higher than the PSP. Its now after christmas and we have copious amounts of PSPs and still none/ very few of the ds with nintendogs bundled in in-stock at stores.
(btw I work at ARGOS and am stock manager for the essex county stores)
tyrion 12 Jan 2006 17:20
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kid_77 wrote:
- The 8-bit generation was a pretty close match, with the UK adopting the MS with enthusiasm. The NES did similarly well. But, in fact I'd say the 80s belonged to the Speccy and C64.

This is true, the C64 just ruled the 80s in the UK. Home computers were a larger market than consoles and the C64 was the 800 pound gorilla of the home computer market.

kid_77 wrote:
- The MD and SNES were pretty even-stephens too. But, again, the Amiga and ST computers were also extremely popular - probably more so than the consoles.

Again, Commodore ruled the roost until the early 90s, about '92-'94 or so. At this point the PC started taking over the home computer market, Doom hit and the 32-bit consoles were being talked about.

kid_77 wrote:
So (and to my conclusion), apart from the Gameboys, Ninty have never dominated the UK market, and perhaps the current figures of PSP/ DS sales shows this trend continuing.

This is an interesting thought and one that bears analysis. Given that the launch of the PlayStation coincided with the descent of the home computer market in the UK, it does seem that Nintendo haven't had a commanding position in the games industry here.

As far as I can remember, Italy and Germany had similar computer over console preferences in the 80s and 90s, to say nothing of the Nordic countries! I think this may have been a phenomenon across Europe. It could be that neither Nintendo nor Sega have ever "owned" Europe and the first European console "super-power" was Sony.

This would certainly account for the huge brand loyalty that PlayStation has in Europe. It may also account for the, sometimes over-stated, anti-Sony feelings among the Nintendo and Sega faithful that we see on the forums here and on other sites.
tyrion 12 Jan 2006 17:45
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owarrak wrote:
I have explained why it is happeneing though, its because the places were the PSP is outselling the DS is full of unimaginative graphic hungry whores!! Not interesting if u ask me

See, that is your opinion, but it's not one that others share. See Kid 77's interesting point about Nintendo never being "top dog" in the UK.

owarrak wrote:
Again u have missed my point, i was talking about pure power and "wow" factor. As in every1 expected the PSP to whipe the floor with the DS and dont say they didnt because 99% of people did. Now that is not my opinion, that is fact!

True, I agree with you there, but just because David has a shiny helmet doesn't make him Goliath. Sony was the one with something to prove, the PSP was the one that had to carve out its own place in the hand-held market. However you slice it, in the worldwide hand-held market, Nintendo is the 800 pound gorilla, or Philistine.

owarrak wrote:
Like i sed i didnt mean it in an aggressive way wat so ever. i was just giving you my opinion. if u choose to read it as aggressive that is up to you.

In that case I misread it and I apologise. However your terse and slightly "txt" style of writing does you a disservice when you are trying to get an informed and thoughtful point across.

owarrak wrote:
so you are telling people if they are implyin opinion or not, very democratic there. tis was my opinion, might not have worded it the best but it was.

That's the problem with a purely written medium like these forums, it's so easy to fail to get your point across if you don't use precise language. The trend on forums these days seems to be towards less precise language and I suppose I'm struggling to keep up.

Grr, you young-uns! I remember when this were all FTP. We used to have to download our documents by hand, both ways, etc, etc...

owarrak wrote:
well wen u start to quote cartmen that says a lot about u.

I'd say something about you missing the intended humour, but after what I wrote above, I'll have to put it down to mis-communication.
owarrak 12 Jan 2006 18:49
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siberdib makes a good point about why the DS isnt top here, but i do see your point though. Appologies for the txt style writting, just lazyness i guess. do get your cartmen bit but just wanted to be awkward :p. wudnt say wudnt say i was that young at 22! Probably should have put my point across better, not the best with the old english. more of a maths fan.

tyrion wrote:
owarrak wrote:
I have explained why it is happeneing though, its because the places were the PSP is outselling the DS is full of unimaginative graphic hungry whores!! Not interesting if u ask me

See, that is your opinion, but it's not one that others share. See Kid 77's interesting point about Nintendo never being "top dog" in the UK.

owarrak wrote:
Again u have missed my point, i was talking about pure power and "wow" factor. As in every1 expected the PSP to whipe the floor with the DS and dont say they didnt because 99% of people did. Now that is not my opinion, that is fact!

True, I agree with you there, but just because David has a shiny helmet doesn't make him Goliath. Sony was the one with something to prove, the PSP was the one that had to carve out its own place in the hand-held market. However you slice it, in the worldwide hand-held market, Nintendo is the 800 pound gorilla, or Philistine.

owarrak wrote:
Like i sed i didnt mean it in an aggressive way wat so ever. i was just giving you my opinion. if u choose to read it as aggressive that is up to you.

In that case I misread it and I apologise. However your terse and slightly "txt" style of writing does you a disservice when you are trying to get an informed and thoughtful point across.

owarrak wrote:
so you are telling people if they are implyin opinion or not, very democratic there. tis was my opinion, might not have worded it the best but it was.

That's the problem with a purely written medium like these forums, it's so easy to fail to get your point across if you don't use precise language. The trend on forums these days seems to be towards less precise language and I suppose I'm struggling to keep up.

Grr, you young-uns! I remember when this were all FTP. We used to have to download our documents by hand, both ways, etc, etc...

owarrak wrote:
well wen u start to quote cartmen that says a lot about u.

I'd say something about you missing the intended humour, but after what I wrote above, I'll have to put it down to mis-communication
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Joji 12 Jan 2006 22:23
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Very interesting stuff, Siber. I still think that a lot of u.k casual gamers still don't get the DS much and judge it on graphics. On top of that they are also led by what the media say is good.

When you switch on MTV what do you see? Win this PSP, yada, yada, yada.

The truly rare japanese gems of the DS like Ouendan, etc will never reach these shores, so that the masses can sit up and take notice of how good the DS really is. Some will, but will they have enough impact.

I think once more online games like Metroid Prime Hunters, get out of the door more people will take notice, but that's not all we need. Once upon a time Nintendo's marketing power and ad power were so great in a pre -sony era. I'd like to see that come back to the level Sony has theirs at.
siberdib 12 Jan 2006 22:58
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Its a pity so many great ds games never get released over here. Ive heard alot of talk about a re designed ds is on the cards. Perhaps thats why we havent been able to get in many ds units. Nintendo running down stocks on purpose? Although saying that we have plenty of silver ds in stock, its just the nintendog bundles which we cant get in. We are still selling large amounts of the sp, it dosent seem to have been affected by the ds.
tyrion 13 Jan 2006 09:44
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owarrak wrote:
siberdib makes a good point about why the DS isnt top here, but i do see your point though.

Reasons aside and just for interest's sake since I don't have access to actual figures, but MCV have a story today about PSP vs DS sales in the UK. And I quote;

MCV wrote:
The installed user base for Sony's PSP officially swept past that of it's rival DS for the first time this week.

Now since the word "offically" was in there, this means ChartTrack figures that are based on over-the-counter sales, not the oft quoted "sell-in" figures.

However MCV didn't publish any actual figures. Take this with the last story they published on the web being pulled and you have to think that somebody is preventing them from quoting the ChartTrack data.

owarrak wrote:
Appologies for the txt style writting, just lazyness i guess. do get your cartmen bit but just wanted to be awkward :p. wudnt say wudnt say i was that young at 22!

Well since I'm 33, I get to do the old man act!

owarrak wrote:
Probably should have put my point across better, not the best with the old english. more of a maths fan.

I used to be useless at English, but working with DoctorDee for most of the last nine years has made me shape up.
tyrion 13 Jan 2006 10:11
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Apologies for replying to my own post, bad form I know, but more sales-related news has come to my attention.

The official Japanese hardware sales figures from Media Create show that the DS hardware shortage is really making its presence felt.

Figures for the first week of this year show the PSP outselling the DS for the first time since March last year. DS sales dropped from 408,770 units, 579,628 units and 390,181 units for the last three weeks of 2005 to 91,379 units in the week commencing 2nd January.

In contrast, the PSP sold 95,689 units, 161,332 units, 110,740 units and 132,757 units in the same four weeks.

The DS holds a huge lead in Japan, having sold 5,720,331 units since launch compared to the PSP's 2,815,718 units.
fluffstardx 13 Jan 2006 10:38
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They'd better start getting more units out there, then; Japan is their saving grace, and they don't want to lose it leading up to Revolution...
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