PlayStation 3 Euro Launch April?
Yes, if you believe Sony’s CEO. No, if you believe Sony's spokesman.
In what is either a stunning admission that the PS3 launch has slipped until April – or a stunning admission that he doesn’t know his own company’s release schedule, Sony’s CEO, Sir Howard Stringer, has told Cnet that the PS3 will hit Europe in April.
The claim has already been met with a denial from unnamed Sony sources, however.
Stringer’s exact quote in answer to the question, “What are the goals for this year for PlayStation?” is:
He’s also got some interesting things to say regarding the PS3’s likely break-even date:
According to a report on gamesindustry.biz, an unnamed Sony spokesman is quoted as saying, "It is not the case that PS3 is launching in April. The date has been and still is March”
We await a correction from Sir Howard’s office… because right now it would appear that not only can the Japanese parent company not communicate to gamers - it can't even get the message across to its own boss.
The full interview is available here
The claim has already been met with a denial from unnamed Sony sources, however.
Stringer’s exact quote in answer to the question, “What are the goals for this year for PlayStation?” is:
”I think it's 6 million units by the end of the quarter, worldwide. And then we have got the European launch in April, which is very important to us. I think we have 20 games out there. I assume we're going to increase the number of games.”
He’s also got some interesting things to say regarding the PS3’s likely break-even date:
”Stringer: Well, I think Kutaragi-san (PlayStation chief Ken Kutaragi) said that it would be break-even by the end of the year, at the end of '07. PS2 was not profitable in the first year. You make it up on the content as the content gathers momentum, the licensees from that and so forth. But the current understanding is that it will be break-even by the end of '07.”
According to a report on gamesindustry.biz, an unnamed Sony spokesman is quoted as saying, "It is not the case that PS3 is launching in April. The date has been and still is March”
We await a correction from Sir Howard’s office… because right now it would appear that not only can the Japanese parent company not communicate to gamers - it can't even get the message across to its own boss.
The full interview is available here
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Joji 17 Jan 2007 20:45
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Pathetic, can't even get that right.
ajmetz 18 Jan 2007 03:36
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If it launches March 23rd as rumoured, then April would be the first full sales month for PS3.
Likely Stringer was staring at the cashflow forecasts, and not the hardware release dates. But then goodness knows. Maybe Sony ppl don't talk to each other.
Likely Stringer was staring at the cashflow forecasts, and not the hardware release dates. But then goodness knows. Maybe Sony ppl don't talk to each other.
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crs117 18 Jan 2007 07:32
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Rumor has it that they are pushing the date back to at least April so they will have enough time to finish stocking all the store shelves in the US. I know that if i saw 10 ps3's floating around walmart instead of the usual 6-8 idly sitting there, that i would be more inclined to buy one., at least i think that is what they are hoping. Either way ps3 is hardly a rare item here in the states, especially when you compare its availability to the still impossible to find wii.
DoctorDee 18 Jan 2007 10:13
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crs117 wrote:
I know that if i saw 10 ps3's floating around walmart instead of the usual 6-8 idly sitting there, that i would be more inclined to buy one.
Not sure I get your meaning there? Why would an extra 2/4 on the shelf make you more inclined to buy one?
And if they are common (and I'm not suggesting that they are not), why are they still selling for $1,000 on eBay? Like this, and this?
SPInGSPOnG 18 Jan 2007 10:20
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And while we're on ther subject of eBay, look at this image someone used in their PS3 listing:
That's gonna change the way I list things from now on.
That's gonna change the way I list things from now on.
DoctorDee 18 Jan 2007 11:13
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Adam M wrote:
Because there are so many people on eBay who are willing to pay above the RRP for just about anything.
There are many peple who will pay more than you can get an item for if you shop around and buy at a good price.
But there aren't that may who will pay more than the price it is on sale for at every Walmart, Best Buy, Circuit City etc etc.
crs117 22 Jan 2007 02:43
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I was being very sarcastic in my initial response. I am simply saying that here in FL (i do a lot of traveling here) i consistently see 6-8 ps3's sitting on store shelves and no wii's. I am not sure if thats all they have room to put out on display at a time, or if that is it.
Also most of my friends that i talk games with, that live in other places have all told me similar things with ps3 availability at their locals.
My joke was simply that sony is trying to ship so many consoles over here and claim large shipment numbers, when in reality the demand has subsided and they are readily available in many areas.
Also most of my friends that i talk games with, that live in other places have all told me similar things with ps3 availability at their locals.
My joke was simply that sony is trying to ship so many consoles over here and claim large shipment numbers, when in reality the demand has subsided and they are readily available in many areas.
king skins 22 Jan 2007 10:20
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DoctorDee wrote:
crs117 wrote:
I know that if i saw 10 ps3's floating around walmart instead of the usual 6-8 idly sitting there, that i would be more inclined to buy one.
Not sure I get your meaning there? Why would an extra 2/4 on the shelf make you more inclined to buy one?
And if they are common (and I'm not suggesting that they are not), why are they still selling for $1,000 on eBay? Like this, and this?
That was naughty Doctor. Not a giving a very acturate picture of the ebay market there. You didn't point out either of these:
Currently: $405.00
Currently: $365
Puts a slightly different perspective on things. And a more acturate one would be just to show all the listings, full listings here. Where the only PS3 that are being sold for anywhere near $1000 are the one you can't bid on. The ones you can bid on are around the $400-$600 mark and few don't even have bids.
I'd also point out in the listing that there are lots of PS3's with no people currently bidding for them.
king skins 22 Jan 2007 10:41
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Those prices are actually quite tempting if you picked one up for around $500 that would only be £253.23. £172 cheaper than you can buy one over here for in March!
DoctorDee 22 Jan 2007 10:49
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king skins wrote:
That was naughty Doctor. Not a giving a very acturate picture of the ebay market there. You didn't point out either of these:
I refute that wholeheartedly. I simply did a search on all completed PS3 console sales on eBay.com, and gave links to the last two completed sales.
I cannot give a link to the completed sales result page, because you have to be logged on (to eBay) to see it.
So I was not being "naughty" I was merely reporting the facts, as they were at the time.
If I do the same right now, the last five completed sales went for: $999, $645, $800, $600, $1550 (with 10 games).
The sales that do not complete are because they are badly listed, for a spec of machine that does not appealk to buyers, or that buyers do not trust the seller (low feedback).
It really doesn't matter if they are auctions or "Buy it Now"s people are still making profits on PS3s on eBay.
king skins 22 Jan 2007 10:58
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I'm not an ebay member so I can't see that page. But they are not making huge profits for a machine that retails for $600. But there are loads for sale with no bids.
Can you tell where the last ones sold where shipped to? I was wondering if they where to people in the US or if they are being exported.
Also, was the pic supposed to be clickable? I got an error when I clicked on it.
Can you tell where the last ones sold where shipped to? I was wondering if they where to people in the US or if they are being exported.
Also, was the pic supposed to be clickable? I got an error when I clicked on it.
king skins 22 Jan 2007 11:04
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Also, can you see if there where any sold by bids not not using the Buy Now button? I'd be more interested to see how much they sold for.
DoctorDee 22 Jan 2007 11:23
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king skins wrote:
Also, can you see if there where any sold by bids not not using the Buy Now button? I'd be more interested to see how much they sold for.
The image should zoom if you click.
I'm just showing you the last few sold. It's the most up-to-dater pitcure of completed sales. Doesn't make a difference to me if they are auctions of But It Now's
Possibly But It Nows are outperforming auctions, because if I had decided to buty a PS3, I'd want it now, not in six days after the auction ended. I'd also want to be sure I was going to get it, not chance waiting six days to find out that I'd lost to someone else.
DoctorDee 22 Jan 2007 11:24
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king skins wrote:
But they are not making huge profits for a machine that retails for $600.
No, they are not. I never said they were. I merely asked why they are making ANY profit at all if PS3s are easily available everywhere.
king skins wrote:
Also, can you see if there where any sold by bids not not using the Buy Now button? I'd be more interested to see how much they sold for.
The image should zoom if you click.
I'm just showing you the last few sold. It's the most up-to-date picture of completed sales. Doesn't make a difference to me if they are auctions of "Buy It Now"s
Possibly "But It Now"s are outperforming auctions, because if I had decided to buty a PS3, I'd want it now, not in six days after the auction ended. I'd also want to be sure I was going to get it, not chance waiting six days to find out that I'd lost to someone else.