Bill Gates: Xbox 2 Chat Trumps CES

News.com interview fires shots.

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Bill Gates: Xbox 2 Chat Trumps CES
In a massive interview with News.com, Microsoft chairman Bill ‘Flan Target’ Gates makes the boldest comments regarding the next iteration of the firm’s Xbox console on record to date.

Outlining what the “primary goals” are as it stands today, Gates said, “"What are some of the primary goals with Xbox 2?"

"Broadening the market, having media capabilities that when there's a PC, we connect up to that. This whole story of the Windows Media Connect and how all the formats and rights management and that simple Media Center menu that's just got TV, photos, music right there--those are common elements we're bringing to all the home devices.

We didn't do Xbox just to do a video game; we did it to be part of our vision of the digital lifestyle, and with the next generation, we really get to go there. In the first generation, we had one simple goal, which was to establish credibility as a great video game platform. We've done that. Actually, the last few months in the United States, we outsold Sony with the PlayStation. So even though they have the biggest installed base, we are a very strong, credible No. 2 in that. As we go into this next generation, it's much broader.

Yes, great video gaming but videogaming for a broader set of people, more communications, more media, more connectivity. And at the same time, we move up to things like high-definition graphics and wireless that the chip breakthroughs allow us to get to.

So just for the games alone you'd go, wow, but the concept now of bringing in your music, your media, connecting to the PC, connecting Xbox Live to Messenger--that just makes it a very big deal."
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Alan is my first name 6 Jan 2005 23:26
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Why is it that any time Nintendo or Microsoft make any sort of announcement, they always claim to be the number two console maker?
Elysium 7 Jan 2005 02:32
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The difference is, when Nintendo claim to be number two, they are talking about Japan. When Microsoft say it, they are talking world-wide. Nintendo are just trying to maintain the illusion that they are still in the race.
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Alan is my first name 7 Jan 2005 03:05
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Elysium wrote:
The difference is, when Nintendo claim to be number two, they are talking about Japan. When Microsoft say it, they are talking world-wide. Nintendo are just trying to maintain the illusion that they are still in the race.


I think it's the European effect that makes people over there believe Nintendo are out of "the race".

I wonder if people in Japan think that Microsoft is out of the race?
Nobohiro Fukasaki 7 Jan 2005 06:37
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Alan is my first name wrote:
I wonder if people in Japan think that Microsoft is out of the race?


No. We did not realise Microsoft was in race.
Svend Joscelyne 7 Jan 2005 09:48
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LUPOS wrote:
...but if its only the digitaly signed ones i downlowded legaly its kind of a bummer

...and now halo 2.5 on xbox live! is goign to check and make sure my copy on windows is registered :(

...there is STILL no way to get away with having a cracked xbox on live doesnt make it look to good for the future...

i highly doubt there is going to be a way to circumvent all their crazy copy protection without missing out on some of the functioanlity of the new system : (


There's a simple solution: Don't be a cheaparse and actually buy the products. You crack an XBox/a copy of Windows/anything, you deserve to get caught.

I do agree with the fact that Microsoft should allow more freedom with their potential XBOX linkup - to your own stereo perhaps, and not just a MS branded 'Boom Bass Stereo 2005 XP Home Edition' (arriving in 200-never(?)) though. And I wouldn't mind AIM or ICQ using the XBOX linkup either (even for a fee). But to be honest, nobody's going to want to pay the fat conglomerates for the privelidge, and you can see where this is going anyway - in the end all you'll be using is Microsoft product.

Which I don't like the sound of, however much I like my XBOX.
kid_77 7 Jan 2005 10:05
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Svend Joscelyne wrote:
There's a simple solution: Don't be a cheaparse and actually buy the products. You crack an XBox/a copy of Windows/anything, you deserve to get caught.


You crack an Xbox and deserve to be caught for what? Modifying an electrical consumer product? What's wrong with that? If you buy something you should be allowed to make your own modifications to it.

Obviously piracy is wrong - unless it's an EA game ;-)
Rod Todd 7 Jan 2005 10:30
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kid_77 wrote:
If you buy something you should be allowed to make your own modifications to it.


But Microsoft don't like the idea of the consumer owning something. Once they realised there was no valid reason for anyone "upgrading" from Windows 98/Office 98, they quickly realised their revenues could easily go down the drain. Nowadays, they'd rather you licenced everything and kept paying, and paying and paying.

Plus, they'd like to leverage every Monopoly they have into every other arena.

Obviously piracy is wrong - unless it's an EA game ;-)


Or Microsoftware. It's best not to use it, but if you have to (because of their monopoly, nad most people's sheep-like compliance), it's better not to pay for it.
config 7 Jan 2005 11:36
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LUPOS wrote:
I would like being able to get xbox live notificatiosn on messenger and messaging people on live! through messenger... i just wish i could do it with aol or icq or whatever the heck program i wanted instead of there software specifically.


Jabber! Jabber is what you're looking for. It's an open chat/IM protocol, which provides gateways between Jabber chat servers and Yahoo, AOL, MSN and a bunch of other IM systems.

We use it in the office to relay text snippets, URIs and the like, and communicate with our London office without having to pick up the phone every two minutes (even if it is free VoIP)

Jabber also caters for whiteboarding, video conferencing and a host of other cool stuff.

Here is a list of free clients on numerous OSs.
config 7 Jan 2005 11:39
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"Its not what you steal, but who you steal it from"
config 7 Jan 2005 11:48
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kid_77 wrote:
You crack an Xbox and deserve to be caught for what?


I think you mean "hack", not "crack".

"Cracking" something tends to mean the removal of copyright mechanisms. Chipping a machine is cracking. Modding a Xbox to run Linux is hacking.
LUPOS 7 Jan 2005 12:51
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Svend Joscelyne wrote:
There's a simple solution: Don't be a cheaparse and actually buy the products. You crack an XBox/a copy of Windows/anything, you deserve to get caught.


i am faaaaaar from a cheap arse... if i where a cheap arse i would have way more money left at the end of the day :(
damn this check to check lifestyle of mine!
that said i have not hacked and xbox specifically because i like to play on live so damn much. and if i did hack/crack (coudl be either since i could do it with a chip or with the mechassault memory card save thing) one i would use it for playing emulators and downloaded video watching in my living room not for playing pirated games. I am unfortunatly reatrded and like to own things, as most people do. If a game is good enough that i would play it to any length i woudl like to own it. if not, well then i would never buy it anyway. For me downloading games would be like getting to try before you buy. And yea yea i know i can just go to blockbuster but i dont personaly think paying 15% of a games total price to try it for 2 days is fair. (hell blockbuster probably does more to prevent game sales than piracy ever has, but then i think they have to pay more for each copy of the game to help make up for it... i think)

as for windows....
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... im sorry but if you are paying for windows.... you are a f'ing moron (not counting those who got a copy with there new pc, i personaly own a dell just cause i like having a waranty) the fact that for less than 500 bucks i can go out and by a pc today that will run any game avaialble relatviely well and perform any other computing task i need makes me think that 100-200 dollars for an operating system is f'ing bull$hit! Although it does make me happy knowing that because i didn't pay for my copy of XP you had to pay just a little bit more for yours ;P
sucker!
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kid_77 7 Jan 2005 13:39
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config wrote:
I think you mean "hack", not "crack".

"Cracking" something tends to mean the removal of copyright mechanisms. Chipping a machine is cracking. Modding a Xbox to run Linux is hacking.


Hack's. Crack's. They're all the same to me (wink wink, nudge nudge).

Now I'm confused, since one method (which I've used) is to flash the bios (thus disabling any copyright milarky), which wouldn't be considered "chipping" since no soldering ever took place.

Shall I call it a CHrack?

Edit: The soldering part isn't entirely true. What I was infering is that no additional "chips" are required as a permenant component of the modded box.
LUPOS 7 Jan 2005 14:53
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kid_77 wrote:

Shall I call it a CHrack?


after many audible atempts i have determined the term CHrack would be pronounced "track" which sadly does not sound cool... thusly i have decided we shall reffer to this new bread of hacking as...
"BRACKING"!!!
i would like to thereby initiate the worlds first Bracking group... any volunteers?

i think when the movie comes out i will have to play my own sexy self... angelina joley(spelling?) will hopefully be available to play kid77... ohhhh baby!
vault 13 9 Jan 2005 17:00
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It's like breakdancing while hacking. I'll show 'em my h-boy style.

But the deal is this. Microsoft is a f**king asshole company. Who are they to regulate what I can and can't watch/play/do!? I think all this connectivity is retarded. When one company controlls your PC/TV/Game console, you get:

1)Pigeonholed into their products

2)Restricted because they want to make sure your personal experience is as miserable as possible. (i.e. Why can't I rip my copied cds even if there legal copies of cds I own to my X-Box. Why does Microsoft get to make that decision for me? And does that affect their sales at all if they did allow it. NO!)

Instead, Microsoft should be more like Sony AND allow third party connectivity. (i.e. by fireware or usb, or whatever) But no, I predict if anything there will be a direct PC link with access to registered and legal files only BUILT RIGHT INTO THE DAMN CABLE! Sneaky bastards! Also I think the reason that there's talk of this, besides Microsoft owning everything through intergration, is that X-Box is NOT slated to have a hard drive. So whadda do? Link it up to the PC and it's like the hard drive never left. Sneaky. I don't really see why there taking it out. It's not gonna really prevent piration any more than leaving it in.

Also I do now believe Halo 2.5 (I mean Halo 2 with better graphics..., Halo 2.1) will be out or near launch. For one simple reason, Bungie can't crank out a sequel in less than a year. They had a hard enough time with this one. By the current time cycle, Halo 3 should hit shelves by 2009 if they start working it on it near the end of 2005 when Halo 2.5(2.1) gets released.
kid_77 10 Jan 2005 09:17
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LUPOS wrote:
angelina joley(spelling?) will hopefully be available to play kid77... ohhhh baby!


Erm, I don't know whether to feel disturbed or aroused.
Ditto 10 Jan 2005 09:26
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Elysium wrote:
The difference is, when Nintendo claim to be number two, they are talking about Japan. When Microsoft say it, they are talking world-wide. Nintendo are just trying to maintain the illusion that they are still in the race.


Totally incorrect.

A little thing called handheld sales. Nintendo own that market, and counting the console market as both home and handheld Nintendo are the Number Two.

Sony and Microsoft want the same thing. Convergence and domination of new media. Sony wants convergence more and Microsoft want New Media dominance.

Mircosoft are evil. They will control your lives if you let them...
Ditto 10 Jan 2005 09:29
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kid_77 wrote:

Hack's. Crack's. They're all the same to me (wink wink, nudge nudge).


Formally a "hacker" was someone who enjoys using computers and who creates and edits advanced computer code. Typically if a hacker finds a problem they will try to fix it and report it to the vendor.

A "cracker" is someone who tries to gain unautorised access to a computer system in order to exploit them.
LUPOS 10 Jan 2005 16:59
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Adam M wrote:
Totally incorrect.

A little thing called handheld sales. Nintendo own that market, and counting the console market as both home and handheld Nintendo are the Number Two.


you my friend a grabbing at straws... by saying nintendo is in third place we are discuss in terms of console sales... period. if we where discussing in terms of overal proffit from systems and sales nintendo might actully pull first considering that basically everygame they make is a million seller... and i believe it was forbes that recently listed microsoft games studios as the #2 developer in the world(after EA) right now because of a little something called halo2. this discusion was in relation specifically to console sales. not portable sales or first party development sales or silly GBA link cable sales or pokemon related merchandise sales. I love nintendo dearly but this is yet another lost fight on their part, and i really hope they can turn things around for the next generation.
LUPOS 10 Jan 2005 17:02
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kid_77 wrote:
Erm, I don't know whether to feel disturbed or aroused.


honored i think ;P

i just figured since i was talking to you about hacking and your icon and name are both sort of non gender specific for movie purposes you would be the most easily replaced with a hot chick! config... for example... is obviously not a hot chick!

no offense buddy : )
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fluffstardx 11 Jan 2005 11:17
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The Gameboy is still a console. It's just portable. I'm sure Sony will count their PSP from now on, too.

Where did all this chatter of Halo 2: Updated Edition come from? I mean, i'd heard about the possibility of the Fable datadisc, but nothing about Halo 2...

As for what is being said about the next gen: Sony and Microsoft already tried media convergence this generation. Sony are trying it again in the handheld market as we speak (i think UMD films are a bit doomed, but meh). It's common sense they'll step it up in the next gen. Heck, they'll have a service like iTunes on there, maybe one for video, and they'll make them TiVos... basically, an entertainment set-top box. Hmm...

I hereby declare Nintendo automatic winner of the next round, as the other two have become "multimedia devices" :P
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