Apple's iPhone has already been given application after application from voice recorders to the ability to capture screens - now at last it appears that it might have a good one: a programmer has just brought an NES emulator to this year's must-have kit.
The emulator has been released called ‘the InfoNES core’ programmed by ‘stepwhite’. The emulator appears slow, almost too slow to be playable; its awkward touch-screen image control is "cute" but also, according to the programmer sucking.
The emulator can play many classic games including: Mario, Zelda, Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior.
Check the video out below and judge for yourself whether it (apparently) does any real justice to the original Super Mario Bros.
Once I again I assert that it was in fact yourself who made the discussion about everything but the iPhone and NES emulator, by bringing up the subject of Joji's other posts relating to the PS3.
Where as you brought up subjects i'd never mentioned intertwined with comments about points other people had made i unrelated threads.
Joji's initial post suggested that an iPhone with a Snes & MD emulator was an nice alternative to a PSP. To which I found preposterous (if anything an iPhone with games would be more an alternative to the DS, no?) That together with him commenting on every single Sony news story in a mostly negative way led me to pose those questions. Joji singles himself out with his constant moaning about the PS3 being so expensive on an almost daily basis, which made me ask a question about being hypocritical. I cant see how it was off topic and the more you reply and the more I reply to you moves us further away from my initial question.
PreciousRoi8 Aug 2007 13:03
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And you fail to see how my bringing up people who constantly disparage MS as a matter of course is related to your bringing Joji's other comments into it?
Sorry dude, you don't get to define the scope of discussion by fiat. Thats not how it works.
And no, an iPhone doesn't compare as validly with the DS as the PSP...as I have stated, the PSP and iPhone are multifunctional(weren't phone functions mooted for the PSP?), while the DS is almost exclusively a gaming platform.
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Rutabaga8 Aug 2007 13:26
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PreciousRoi wrote:
And you fail to see how my bringing up people who constantly disparage MS as a matter of course is related to your bringing Joji's other comments into it?
Yes I do fail to see the point of your initial post. My initial post was related to Joji, yours appeared to of been posted in the wrong thread.
PreciousRoi wrote:
Sorry dude, you don't get to define the scope of discussion by fiat. Thats not how it works.
I never pertained to.
PreciousRoi wrote:
And no, an iPhone doesn't compare as validly with the DS as the PSP...as I have stated, the PSP and iPhone are multifunctional(weren't phone functions mooted for the PSP?), while the DS is almost exclusively a gaming platform.
I think your so wrong on this point it's almost funny. You do realize what the USP of the DS and the iPhone is? Every decent DS game under the sun could be ported to the iPhone easily.
PreciousRoi8 Aug 2007 14:00
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now your just spouting nonsense, the intended functionality of the PSP and an iPhone that plays games are far closer and comprable than either unit compared with the DS.
Rutabaga8 Aug 2007 14:43
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PreciousRoi wrote:
now your just spouting nonsense, the intended functionality of the PSP and an iPhone that plays games are far closer and comprable than either unit compared with the DS.
Why is it nonsense? The iPhone has more in common with a DS than the PSP. Touch screen, check, microphone, check. Can you not see that any DS game that uses the touchscreen or microphone would work perfectly on the iPhone. PSP games wouldn't work as well on the iPhone due to it's lack of physical buttons.
PreciousRoi8 Aug 2007 15:15
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Thats like saying an PC is more comprable to a Xbox than a Mac because the software is easy to port...you're talking about hardware and perhipherals...I'm talking about function.
sharing some of the same architechture yes...but a PC is a multifunctional device whose actual capabilities are more comprable with a Mac than an Xbox (due to design). While the Xbox was designed (like the DS) from the ground up as a gaming device, with few provisions for multifunctionality, and restrictions upon what potential for multifunctionality is present.
Might be one reason why the DS is so successful.
(and yes, I'm aware that an Xbox is essentially a PC, but in function, its been restricted to being a game console)
Rutabaga8 Aug 2007 15:42
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What are you babbling on about? In summary: if you were to have games on an iPhone, DS style ones would work perfectly due to the fact that they both share a TOUCHSCREEN and a microphone, why is this so difficult for you to understand. If some unscrupulous coder created a DS emulator for the iPhone, you would probably have the best multipurpose mobile device around.
PreciousRoi8 Aug 2007 15:53
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thats right...multifunction device...which the DS is not. thank goodness you cleared that up...
Rutabaga8 Aug 2007 16:03
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Now I realize you just argue for the sake of it even in the face of being wrong. Or do you not realise that DS can play games, access the Web, run homebrew, play video and play music. Does that not class as multifunctional?
PreciousRoi8 Aug 2007 16:18
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are these hacked DS' you're talking about?
Rutabaga8 Aug 2007 17:00
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Nope! Web browser & MP3 player are official Nintendo products, Datel make a media player & an M3 Simply allows homebrew without any "hacking" of the DS.
PreciousRoi8 Aug 2007 20:14
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Well, I'll concede the point then, the DS is a multifunction device.
I could, and will make the argument that multifunctionality is more integral, to the design, the function, and the public perception of the iPhone and PSP than the DS. Both of the former were/are promoted as "all-singing, all-dancing wunderdevices", while the DS...well, its a Nintendo... I can turn an Xbox into a media hub, but its not as evolved into the role as a 360...
Hmm...you see the touchscreen and see that as the important bit linking the iPhone and PSP...I see the integral multifunctionality as the important bit...fair enough I suppose...
headcasephil9 Aug 2007 03:41
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ever one new that some 1 was going to bring out a emulator for the iphone i was not expecting it to be nes wich is cool and as all is going on about psp ds and so on what a bout the gp2x were there is lots of emulators its got a music and film player on it and so on and so on i am so going to be getting a iphone but i was going to be any way but this makes me want 1 even more so but manly for the fact of me beeing a show off and i want to see the faces on peoples face !!!
headcasephil9 Aug 2007 03:46
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Rutabaga wrote:
Nope! Web browser & MP3 player are official Nintendo products, Datel make a media player & an M3 Simply allows homebrew without any "hacking" of the DS.
sorry for double replying but you mist out 1 BIG thing the ds is run on a palm os and nintedo and palm are making a organizer for the console
tyrion9 Aug 2007 07:54
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Rutabaga wrote:
if you were to have games on an iPhone, DS style ones would work perfectly due to the fact that they both share a TOUCHSCREEN and a microphone, why is this so difficult for you to understand. If some unscrupulous coder created a DS emulator for the iPhone, you would probably have the best multipurpose mobile device around.
Not to fan the flames of this argument any more than is necessary, but the iPhone has no buttons, so you'd have to do "soft" buttons for the d-pad, face buttons and shoulder buttons on the DS.
The NES emulator guy admits that his soft buttons are unsatisfactory and he only has six to deal with. When you get ten on there you're seriously running out of screen space to display the game.
Rutabaga9 Aug 2007 09:20
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tyrion wrote:
Not to fan the flames of this argument any more than is necessary, but the iPhone has no buttons, so you'd have to do "soft" buttons for the d-pad, face buttons and shoulder buttons on the DS.
The NES emulator guy admits that his soft buttons are unsatisfactory and he only has six to deal with. When you get ten on there you're seriously running out of screen space to display the game.
I did state earlier in this convoluted argument that games that use the touch screen and microphone would work perfectly on the iPhone. It's why I stated that DS games would be more suitable to the iPhone than PSP ones. (emulating 12 virtual buttons of the PSP control system would be pointless). In summary Elite Beat agents would be great on an iPhone, Daxter wouldn't.
tyrion9 Aug 2007 13:32
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Rutabaga wrote:
I did state earlier in this convoluted argument that games that use the touch screen and microphone would work perfectly on the iPhone. It's why I stated that DS games would be more suitable to the iPhone than PSP ones. (emulating 12 virtual buttons of the PSP control system would be pointless). In summary Elite Beat agents would be great on an iPhone, Daxter wouldn't.
But any DS game that needs the "normal" buttons (e.g. Mario Kart) would be useless since there would be so much screen estate given over to the soft buttons that you'd not have any room left for the game display.
Only DS games that only use the touchscreen and/or microphone would be "perfect" to play.
Rutabaga9 Aug 2007 14:09
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? Thats what I said.
tyrion10 Aug 2007 07:55
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Rutabaga wrote:
? Thats what I said.
I don't want to start another nitpicking argument but there is a marked difference between "games that use the touchscreen and/or microphone" and "games that only use the touchscreen and/or microphone" - only the second category would work "perfectly".
If that was your point and I missed it, I apologies for possibly sparking another petty argument.
Rutabaga10 Aug 2007 09:51
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No need to apologize, I may not of been 100% clear in what I was trying to describe in the protracted "discussion" with precious. My initial post was in relation to Joji's post about the iPhone (if it where to have a Snes or MD emulator being a nice alternative to the PSP) as you've stated, these wouldn't work at all well due to the iPhone not having physical buttons, (which would be the same with PSP games) I was merely trying to point out if any game's where to be ported to an iPhone, DS games (that only use the touchscreen/microphone) would be perfect. In fact Elecroplankton could benefit from the greater screen size! Never gonna happen I know due to the best games being Nintendo's property. Unless...