Interviews// Sony Europe Boss David Reeves

Posted 19 Jul 2007 12:12 by
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Sony Boss: David Reeves
David Reeves is the president and CEO of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe so, along with president (Worldwide Studios) Phil Harrison, he’s the biggest cheese at PlayStation outside of Japan and the U.S. I caught up with him in order to quiz him about the lack of PS3 price-drop in the UK, when we’ll start seeing killer PS3 games, the delay in PS3 porting of games that use Unreal Engine 3 and all sorts of other tricky questions.

SPOnG: You dropped the price of the PS3 in the U.S. but not here. What was the thinking behind that?

David Reeves: I should not be the spokesman for Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA), really, because they have their own strategy – you’ll have to draw your own conclusions.

I will tell you what we’re doing here and why we’re doing it. Put yourself in our situation – I’m not trying to convince you, but let me take you through our thought processes. If you’re a consumer and we introduced the PS3 in March for £425 or €599 – let’s say you bought one at the end of April and have been using it, playing Resistance: Fall of Man and MotorStorm.

Then suddenly, SCEE said: “Well, what we’re going to do is reduce the price to €499 (£336).” We’ve only been on the market for three and a bit months.

Our thought process was: “Wait a minute – we’re actually not doing too badly – we’re not selling as well as Wii or DS, but seasonality-wise, compared to, say, PS2 at the same time we launched it in 2001, we’re actually doing quite well on a regional level. It’s exactly the target that we sought.

The only boost we have normally at this period is First Communion, which is in the Catholic countries, and we have had that in Spain, Portugal and Italy, but it’s not really a gamers’ month unless you get a big, big title. So, we thought if we reduced the price, we’d annoy a lot of people. We did think about it, but we also felt that it wasn’t doing that badly. In the U.S., they’ve been going for more than six months, so they took the decision that going down in price was a better thing to do than a value pack.

SPOnG: The fact remains that right now, if you want to buy a 60GB PS3 over here – admittedly with an extra controller and game – it will cost you £425, but in the States, it will cost £250. That raises the spectre of grey-market imports, which Sony has been tough on in the past. Is that something that worries you?

David Reeves: No, I’m not worried about that at all. Because we are at £425. The value in there is £120 to £125. We know that most people, anyway are going to buy 2-to-2.5 games.

So, when you do the maths, it’s going to be $499, which is £250, plus two games and a Sixaxis controller. So, that’s going to come up to £380 to £390. But there’s VAT in Europe, so you have to take 15 per cent off, and there’s GST (Goods and Services Tax) in the US, and the average sales tax is 8.5 per cent.

So, when we did the maths (and this is the case in Australia as well which has GST at 10%. Ed), they are exactly the same. We could have omitted the Sixaxis controller and just put two games in, but it wasn’t enough – we wanted to have a level playing field. But not drop the price – because we actually don’t believe that dropping the price in the summer works.

What happens is – and we’re not arrogant about it; we just have the stats – if you drop the price in the summer, the sales rate goes up for a couple of weeks, because there’s not much demand out there, and then the sales rate comes down again until you get to the end of September/the beginning of October, and it all starts to heat up. We’ve had more success doing that either earlier in the year, in March, or later in the year, but doing it in the summer just hasn’t worked for us. We’ve tended to do these starter or value-added packs, and people have come out and said: “You know, that’s not bad”. That keeps us going in the summer. But we realised we had to – to use an old Chris Deering expression – take some air out of the tyres to get to the next level.
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DoctorDee 19 Jul 2007 14:03
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Asda comes out of hiding once a year. Claims that it will dominate the computer games market - gets an MCV cover and then goes away again without doing anything.


realvictory 20 Jul 2007 01:35
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He makes it sound planned and under control, but that is irrelevant - what is relevant is what people actually think. Whether there's a reason or not for something, if it looks bad, then it's a problem.

Making a bundle and not putting the price down isn't intrinsically going to make more people buy a PS3 - because the point was, it was too expensive in the first place. You get more in a box now, but it's still the same price. In some shops, you get any game included for £399. Why would anyone want a bundle, which is inferior to what you can already get?

The Wii was too expensive, but it was within a range that was affordable. The XBox 360 has had an advantage since the PS3 launch, as now it's not the most expensive games console.

If everyone wanted Blu-ray, then people might see extra value, but if they don't care, it's unnecessary extra cost. Speaking of which, my opinion is that, although people "want" a PS3, they don't want one enough - they need a significant reason to get one - a reason to pay £400 for what's basically a toy. People (well, not all people) who buy these things aren't as stupid as they are made out to be - it's a better deal now, but if I could afford it and/or if I wanted one enough, I would have bought a PS3 already. To me, at least, the new price doesn't seem much different.
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DoctorDee 20 Jul 2007 08:55
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realvictory wrote:
Making a bundle and not putting the price down isn't intrinsically going to make more people buy a PS3 - because the point was, it was too expensive in the first place. You get more in a box now, but it's still the same price. In some shops, you get any game included for £399. Why would anyone want a bundle, which is inferior to what you can already get?

I have to disagree. The bundle gives you an additional controller - and two good games. That is a real saving - very few people would buy a PS3 without a game, and most people would choose one of the games included in the pack. The fact is, you can walk out of the shop with the console, something to play on it and the means to play with your brother/pals and you will have spent less money. There's no way that is not a saving. Since the bundle has the same rrp as the console previously had, shops will discount the bundle exactly like they discounted the console - so you'll see it for £399 either immediately, or soon after launch.

While it may not appeal to you, it will appeal to some people. That is likely to increase sales - not necessarily greatly - but then the console is selling as well as PS1 and PS2 did, and we all know what they went on to achieve.

hollywooda 20 Jul 2007 16:27
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"they’re going to stick with the PS2, because they still enjoy the games, don’t have a high-definition TV and don’t necessarily want to play Blu-rays"

Thankyou!.... see Sony thats why the PS2 is successful!... its a games console!?!?... 1st!....with games....you see?..no?...
deleted 21 Jul 2007 18:45
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come on there is no price drop, and the deal is crap,

hmv currently offer,

a PS3, Any 2 Games, An Extra Sixaxis, HDMI Cable, Any 2 Blu ray Moviesand a voucher book with £100.00 discounts for ----------- £425.00 err isnt that what sony is giving us minus the bluray discs and hdmi, yes it is so if hmv can do that and is either making or breaking profit, then sony can do better, they should of given us that pack for £350 and ps3s would fly off the self even 399.99 would change then mentality thats its over £400.00 quid, and it could compete with the elite?
tyrion 24 Jul 2007 07:34
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haritori wrote:
a PS3, Any 2 Games, An Extra Sixaxis, HDMI Cable, Any 2 Blu ray Moviesand a voucher book with £100.00 discounts for ----------- £425.00 err isnt that what sony is giving us minus the bluray discs and hdmi, yes it is so if hmv can do that and is either making or breaking profit

HMV are not making a profit on that bundle. What they are doing is driving business and encouraging repeat business with the vouchers. They are banking on making back their losses on the PS3 offer with the increase in profit on the repeat business.
DoctorDee 24 Jul 2007 10:53
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haritori wrote:
come on there is no price drop, and the deal is crap,

The deal is not crap. As for no price drop, it is important for Sony, for pride, honour or whatever not to drop the price right now. Bu they have delvered a far more appealing package for the same price... it's NOT a price drop, but it IS a value increase. You can argue all day about how it isn't... but you'll be wrong all day long.

even 399.99 would change then mentality thats its over £400.00 quid, and it could compete with the elite?

But the fact is, retail were selling the stanf alone PS3 for £399 - they'll sell the bundle for £399.

So you'll get exactly what you are asking for.

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