Xbox 360 Discs Won't Hold GTA V?

What about texture streaming? Its being used by EPIC although I hate it as it means texture pop ups and this happens a lot with RB6V2 on the 360 when going online.

Not sure whether textures are streamed on the PS3 though.

Im sure that s something of the Unreal Engine only (Mass effect, Gears, RB6V2 all show what you said with the pop up) but im not sure the streaming actually reduces stored textures on the disc, and the textures re just one part, theres Audio, Video, Maps, Models etc..

Not sure multidisks would work for GTA, so I guess an install would be required, seems to work for most PS3 games like DMC and lost planet with 5gig installs so shouldn't be a problem.

that would mean GTA 5 'hard drive required', OR what about if they gave you a disc + a 4 gig usb memory unit containing, i'm sure that could also work.

there is no way they wouold allow memory units to have stored game data like that as it would open the doors for hacking and likes with read write access directly to the processors and memory, wow a homebrews dream i bet.

That still requires enough space on the physical media to store all the textures. It's not even cutting down on the loading, it allows the textures to load just before they are needed. Or just after, if you're seeing texture pop! :-)

Any game that streams the environment will also stream the textures. Games as old as Primal and, I think, Soul Reaver did this to some extent. They also streamed the environmental geometry.

Heres a scan from metro showing Microsoft Pushing the DLC to come, i posted this as i remember a recent discussion a lot of peeps were pointing out that MS should be pushing it!

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you are 100p.c wrong.do u ever make a game in your life.u just wrote that developer was telling a lie of needing more space.u dont how much they had problem with 360 gta to make for not having enough space.i know u have a 360 but at least respect what the game guy said about space problem.

a modest color texture tile of 1024^2 pixels you can easily have a file size of 1.5mb and that's just for color - not vertex, normal, occlusion or whatever shader you can wag your finger at. then you've got different sizes of the same texture for different LoD

modern games in realistic setting could easily fly past a dozen gigs without even thinking about audio, meshes or anything else.

procedural texture would help out a bit in future but for some stuff you just can't get away from massive raster texture data

Need More Storage end of.

but it doesnt matter because it wont be a requirement until the next batch of consoles, sony just got lucky the HD war could of gone either way and yes they would have large storage but they would of lost fistfulls of cash on the bluray front, and by the sounds of things 50GB wont be wnough in 5years either, whats needed is 100GB Bluray and Terrabyte HDD. then devs can stop moaning about storage and start monaing about how rubbish it is to make Wii games again.

There are already proof of concept 200GB Blu-ray discs and you can get 1TB drives now in 3.5" form factor.

My goodness, the future is here now! Where's my flying car?

Ok first off PS3 beats 360 by long shot, yes 360 had a really good run but i think its time for the PS3 to haves its own. 50GB of memory and not even a third of it is being used if you ask me imagine what the new GTA would look like and imagine how much more you can have if you put time and patience into creating the game of all games.

Yes, but i isnt going to happen, Devs would rather sell across 2 platforms - more sales than have exclusive better looking title with less revenue (save for maybe Konami and Square???) so although PS3 may be more powerfula nd capable of more it just isnt going to happen, like a previous posting points out thois gen is starting to show that content is key and not power!

Well I'm just going to throw out there PS3 is nothing compared to 360 and it's only cause, there is always more feature to the 360 ( or Xbox) then the PS2 or PS3 and someone said that PS3 has a 50GB well my 360 has 80GB it is the elite version all black not the white BS.

And what i mean by extra feature is in one of the games Gauntlet Dark Legacy when you get the hammer or anti-death you can switch them on or off in Xbox but on PS2 you cant switch them on or off they are always on, and let me remind you Xbox came out with the internal hard drive, On the PS2 you had to save on a memories card or you lost everything you did in the games meaning you had to go out and buy 2 or 3 cards just to save what you did, and Xbox and Xbox 360 has had it from the get-go making it one less thing you had to buy to enjoy your game play. thank you and i'm just going to leave it with Xbox is the best.

Christ, do you go the same school as SS4? You need to stop playing games and learn how to form sentences! Once you've done that you could come back and articulate the above garbage better, but you'll still be talking out of your $%^&

For the record, a bug in a poor game released on multiple systems does not make the host console poor. And I had a PS2 with about 20 games and I somehow managed with only a single memory card... and I enjoyed it too, not once thinking that I might need a hard drive. And for god's sake, get your facts straight about hard disk sizes if you're going to make the effort to type.

In the beginning, God said "Let there be Pong." And it was good, for a while.

Then man said "God, we need a bit better graphics than this. Can you sort us out with some more advanced hardware?"

And so God created the Atari Jaguar, although no-one really likes to talk about that. Then man said "God, come on, seriously. Mankind's a bit primitive and motivated by status and greed - how about you give us a multi-billion dollar hardware war so we can all fight about whether your console's better than mine?"

And lo, it was done. And it was - well, good in a sense, because we all know that competition drives things forward, even if not always evenly across the geographic territories. Here in the West for instance we seldom get our hands on those nice limited editions consoles, whereas in Japan for example, they don't get the luxury of paying anywhere near as much as we do for exactly the same things.

Nevertheless, the reasons for the seemingly endless 'generation wars' and legions of fanboys are several:

- Quite simply, there is a s**tload of money at stake. Firstly on behalf of the manufacturers, developers and distributors. Some peoples livelihoods, and other people's next addition to their Ferrari collection, rely on the console of their choice doing well. It's in their interest to make sure that format succeeds, so they'll promote it endlessly - whether through using genuine information, cheap PR stunts or just outright lying or manipulation of statistics.

- Secondly, there's the money invested by the consumer (or player, if you'd rather pretend you're not part of the capitalist machine). These people pay what is often a lot of money for a particular console, not including the games, extra joypads, memory cards, AV leads and sensory feedback wetsuits on top. So when they do this, they also want to make sure that their investment isn't wasted which creates an instinctive bias and again causes them to tout the features of their console over the ones they didn't buy.

- Finally, players are often geeks. Sometimes it doesn't show, sometimes they manage to escape it when they hit their twenties and discover alcohol - or in rare occasions, that mystery race known as "women." And sometimes they're so geeked up that they wear it as a badge of honour hoping that they'll appear so immersed as to become hardcore - as if that's good in the same way that some porn is hardcore. Do not confuse things in this way. They are very, very much at opposite ends of the spectrum - although these people often have an interest in both of these things. (Note to self: See if wet-with-wii.com is taken). And this is where your average fanboy originates, again using the same kind of tactics you saw two paragraphs ago. However, without any kind of corporate backing or responsibility and with the power of the internet at their disposal, their claims become even wilder, such as:

"The red ring of death is a GOOD thing. When it flashes, I can finally imagine what it's like to go to a real disco."

"I don't care that all my PS3 games crash. All the glitches just go to show that it's so powerful, only aliens and beings from the future are capable of programming for it!"

"The Wii isn't just a gimmicky kids toy you know." (It is, kids)

Simply put, by absorbing themselves so much into the culture of gaming, their console of choice forms part of their identity. And when someone's identity is challenged, they will defend it to the death. Despite, mainly, the arrival of the Playstation brand, gaming never has and never will be truly cool. We all know this, and we try harder and harder to pretend it isn't true.

For these reasons, the same old arguments will continue to be played throughout each successive generation. Each console has it's merits, it also has it's drawbacks, and each will, equally, always have an endless supply of kids in the playground and forum contributors to argue them all out.

And SuperSaiyan4 will still be completely unable to form a coherent argument or sentence.