Wii Ahead Of Xbox 360 In Hardware Sales?

Microsoft over ships like crazy to make it seem like they r still number one, but in reality Nintendo passed them end of August. So the numbers r correct in a way Microsoft and Nintendo did ship to retailers 13.4 and 13.2 million consoles to retailers respectively by September, but Microsoft over ships by over a million and Nintendo cant make enough of them to meet demand let alone over ship so in reality Microsoft had sold around 12 million to consumers and Nintendo had sold around 13 million to consumers and that’s the important number.

How can you guys not know that MS's figures are sold to retailers not sold to consumers, for MS, once its sold to retailers its sold they have the money, but it doesn't put it into the hands of the consumers.

When VGC says 16 million, they are referring to the sales from the stores to the consumers, notice how you can still find 360's on the shelf

Wow now even a s**tty site like VGChartz0r has fanboys.

Anonymous fanboys, of course.

Sounds like sour grapes, my friend, upset that Wii is in the lead?

Sounds like denial to me. The Wii is a cheap console that people are buying as a party toy or for their kids/girlfriends & mums. There are no real games(no I don't want to see a list of Wii software) and the control scheme isn't best suited for proper games.

Nobody is denying that it's a games console I'm saying it isn't in direct competition with the 360 or PS3. The price point, spec and features set it aside from the SONY and Microsoft's offerings. Example: Ferrari and a KIA both manufacture cars but they certainly aren't in direct competition.

I am merely stating the obvious.

No sour grapes, I'm fine with the Wii's lead. Why wouldn't I be, I have Nintendo shares!

I am simply disappointed that people are using logic that doesn't stack up to defend a site whose statistics are obviously incorrect.

VGChartz is either overestimating sales of Wii or underestimating sales of 360 when compared with other figures. People here are saying that its numbers are lower than elswhere because they deal with units sold to consumers, not units shipped. That logic does not explain with why their Wii figures are higher than elsewhere.

People are saying that VGChartz uses NPD data. That is a uniquely geocentric view, NPD data only deals with the United States of America... fewer than 5% of the world's population. NPD is panel based. It does not monitor all sales. It monitors a statistically significant sample, and extrapolates from there. The inclusion of NPD data in a global sales figure is not a guarantee of accuracy.

No one but the platform holder has definitive accurate figures for a console's global sales, and for commercial reasons, it is not in their interests to state them clearly. VGChartz is guesstimating. There is nothing wrong with that, as long as they are clear that that is what they are doing. If they present their figures as definitive, they are lying. People here and elsewhere who take their (or any) figures as gospel are fooling themselves.

So MS has released figures for SOLD units instead of shipped? Well, that's a first!!!

If not, then VGchartz is probably not too far off... again.

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I think each platform has carved a niche deep enough that the numbers game is longer as important as it once was. Wii has a massive fanbase of hardcore, casual, and soccer mom players that is not going away, period. The 360 has the college, online gamer demographic that spend half their day in Halo 3 matchmaking. And of course with Blu Ray's extra storage the PS3 will always be a contender for a wealth of exclusives (and the name recognition certainly doesn't hurt any).

The bottom line is that at this point, unless something drastic happens, nobody is going anywhere...

"The fact that it has the 360's total at the end of 2007 at just over 16 million, however, shows that VG Chartz figures need to be taken with a pinch of salt."

Why the heck would you say this? It's like you're assuming that Microsoft's sales figures should be treated as the gospel. Do you not take into account that the 360's figures represent units SHIPPED to retailers, whereas the Wii figures represent units SOLD to customers?

It seems like any moron is allowed to write an article these days.

As if any one needs additional confirmation that this is SHIPPED, you can go to ***n00b weblink removed*** wait for Robbie Bach to speak, and hear it straight from his lips.

Maybe spong should do some research before posting news reports. This is irresponsibility at its finest.

I thaught it was already established in October that the Wii was the new market leader, if not, certainly by November, if not by then, certainly by December...you know because it has been outselling the Xbox360 in those three months worldwide by half million units per month if not more.

but whos sells more?, Kia or Ferrari? there for Kia has a bigger install base, imagine if regardless of your car the petrol was what controlled the handling and the speed etc it wouldnt ,matter what brand car you had but what brand fuel?, again this points out it doesnt matter what console you have its what you can play on it, people dont buy the Wii for its asthetics they buy it for its brand of fuel! and right now im filling up on Mario Galaxy 4 star! and i chose that game over a 360 game that week (cant remember which) and so does that not show i effected xbox 360 games sales because of my Wii and therefore created direct competition?

People buy the Wii 'cos it's cheap and for party games not for it's huge selection of quality AAA games catalog.

Oh wait... sorry, the Wii has the poorest selection of games of the three current formats, it doesn't have a huge selection of AAA games.

You can try to spin it which ever way you want, Microsoft is selling more games than Nintendo. You're wrong, sorry.

Something called a DS disagrees with the last statement. No matter how anyone tries to spin it, the DS is actually the real winner in this format war. It has more games that sold over 5 million copies then Xbox360 has games selling over a million copies. Who's selling the most games then?

You could also say that the Wii has the most AAA fun (remember fun?) games, while the Xbox360 has the most AAA formulaic games and it would be true as well.

What has the DS got to do with home consoles? My last statement has no relevance to the DS whatsoever. The DS is the cheapest portable console with the best and widest variation of proper handheld games, nothing like the Wii.

Nobody is disputing that the DS has sold more units and games worldwide, however the DS isn't in any sort of competition whatsoever with home consoles.

The simple fact remains that the Wii isn't shifting the same amount of software as the 360 despite the Wii having the larger installed userbase. The Wii is selling more consoles because it is cheap and a good party toy. It is appealing to more casual gaming consumers. Have you got it through your thick skull yet?

It's not as if any of this matters anyway. Does it stop any 360/PS3 owners enjoying their system by knowing that more people have bought a Wii, I really doubt it.