DS final design unleashed! Stop everything – read this

UGH looks like Nintendo has tried to beat sony in the looks department and has failed miserably. Not only that but the look is totaly wrong for their target audience, it's too tacky for gadget posers and too shiny and expensive looking for kids.

New look of Nintendo DS is perfect. It's robust, decent, and much-much better than sony's remote-controller-look of PSP

It's cheap, it's tacky, it's SO 80's looking.
I prefered the old design, myself.
My only hope is, that that "Super Shiny Metal WOW!" stuff isn't that god awful Ruffly metallic stuff you used to get on 80s walkmans.. Come on.. You know the stuff I'm on about, right!

NDS was always a better machine in terms of functionality [functionality is not graphics] and now has addressed the one problem area it had in terms of its marketability – its looks.

I'm no nintendo fan boy, I'd buy both if I could afford it. but for someone who has been gaming since the early eighties I'm looking for something to revitalize my interest in an activity that used to be quite magical. I'm afraid PSP is just more of the same old story. NDS is something new, something different and that is what will count in the games industry in the next generation of consoles.

NDS gets my vote (and my money).

Nah I like it but Ill reserve judgement till I see it in my hand, it could have been made all shiney by someone with photoshop

I still think the PSP looks nicer, it looks like Nintendo have tried to address this issue and have succeeded in some ways, although I think silver doesn't suit this like it did with the SP.
The fact is the DS could be £100 cheaper than the PSP, that, and the new types of games it will have using the stylus makes it a more likely buy for me.

I'm not convinced by the new design - it looks tacky and highly reminiscent of a crossbreed of GBA:SP and a Tiger Game.com. To be honest, I'm not even sure if I like it more than the old design, which wasn't hot stuff to begin with.

It's a shame though, looking at this system. There's a hell of a lot of potential in it's design for innovative and groundbreaking games, but we haven't been given many examples of how that will work yet (besides the tasty-looking Wario Ware DS). The Sonic demo couldn't be padded out to fill a whole game, and the Metroid Prime: Hunters method of touch-screen control has been called "fiddly" more than once. It doesn't look comfortable, at any rate.

To be honest, I believe Nintendo has built the machine and is now struggling to find ideas to make use of the system's capabilities. I was hoping that I'd have seen something by now to have sold me on the idea, and I was hoping that Nintendo had lots of ideas where were saying "we need 2 screens for this, so we'll need a dual-screened system", rather than "we've got a dual-screened system, now what do we do with it?". So far, we've mainly got maps. And if Nintendo can't think of many great uses for the system, it casts some large doubts as to what less creative developers will do with the system.

Nintendo are making twenty games for this console. Ok sega has dished up some pretty stinky games recently, but Nintendo only deals in quality. 75% o Nintendo games are pure gold. Question is, can the hulking motherbrain that is EA get its huge slow head round this slightly different idea?..

Its sad, but success really depends on the licenses that EA now seems to have a monopoly on.

Is that true??

Can't believe they put the power button direction above the d-pad. How many of us are gonna accidentally switch our DSs off???

LOL!

I'm hoping it's more a Clicky button than it looks!!

dyne wrote:

>Can't believe they put the power button direction
>above the d-pad. How many of us are gonna
>accidentally switch our DSs off???

In the protoypes the power button was above the action buttons, which was even more likely to result in accidental power-offs. That's why they've switched the Start/Select and Power buttons over.

I'm not in this to debate the quality of Sega's output, given that I only mentioned one of their tech demos. Suffice to say that the haters forget Virtua Fighter 4: Evo, OutRun 2 and other such gems, but we're discussing DS here.

I have no problem with Nintendo's regular output, but the current DS stuff they're showing isn't exactly innovating like they promised. Mario Kart DS - we have a big map this time! Mario 64x4, Mario 64 with multiplayer and a map. Metroid Prime: Hunters - first-person Metroid with multiplayer, a map and some touch-screen control. The new 2D Mario platformer with the 3D graphics doesn't even use the second screen at this point. 75% of it may be gold, but how much of that gold really needs two screens and a stylus?

Well it looks like what I was expecting, very GBASP while still being a little retro Game and Watch in design. Like I said before a piece of past, present and future. I expect it'll come in diifferent colours on release day too.

I tired of comparing DS and PSP, but it's very clear Sony are gonna have trouble matching DS's price, let alone it's back catalogue of games.

I believe the same folk that bought the GBASP will no doubt upgrade to this 2-in-1 system. It's price is reasonable and it's givng your more for your money, so it's a win win situation. I can see DS shifting loads in japan especially, but the price also makes it more reasonable for other nations (some which are as rich as ours) when they get it's release.

The looks competition is now over now we have a final design. I like the look of both systems, but now the trivial jibe is out of the way and we have a firm price, it's time to let the games do the talking next. That is always the best part.

Very nice but anything takes time. All we have to go on are what we saw at E3, that was almost 2 months ago now. Fair enough what was on show were demos etc, but it's early days yet.

Other developers also have to use their brains and come up with ideas for the DS, but nowhere does it say that you MUST use the touch screen in every game, it's optional just like using 4 buttons instead of 6 for a game.

If developers wanna use it or not it's up to them. Some will play it safe and just make 3D games, some might use the mic or whatever. Leave it in ther hands and have some patience, we will find out soon. REMEMBER, THEY ARE OPTIONAL TO USE. The games at E3 will change before they get to shop shelves, along with some new games we haven't even seen yet. Also remember are very secretive about their new stuff til it's time for us to know, DS is no different in that respect.

Twisted23 wrote:

>UGH looks like Nintendo has tried to beat sony in
>the looks department and has failed miserably.
>Not only that but the look is totaly wrong for
>their target audience, it's too tacky for gadget
>posers and too shiny and expensive looking for
>kids.

Not at all. This is what I was hoping from N. The overall design wasn't bad, but the original DS design was cheap looking. That was thanks to the finish and detail (receses/rebates) .

Is all looking good now, yah?