Holy S**t! Codemasters Confirms New Sensible Soccer! First Screens!

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Greg2k
Joined 28 Feb 2005
107 comments
Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:05
Would I sound like a raving Nintendo fanboy if I were to say Codemasters suck for INSISTINGLY ignoring Nintendo for no apparent reason? How much would it cost to port to the Gamecube? I mean come on, surely you'd still make a profit?
TommyG
Joined 6 Jan 2004
1 comments
Tue, 1 Nov 2005 17:33
Brilliant Headline, Sums it up!!!
ann0uk
Joined 26 Jan 2005
101 comments
Tue, 1 Nov 2005 20:39
I think that is another sign of the biased attitude that the industry has towards Xbox and Playstation.
This is similar to the success of Soul Calibur 2 on gamecube compared to Xbox and PS2 but yet Namco ignored Gamecube to make a PS2 exclusive sequel. Great business sense I must say.
That is not going to change, Gamecube is reaching the end of its life cycle.
Joji
Joined 12 Mar 2004
3960 comments
Tue, 1 Nov 2005 20:47
Totally agree with you Greg. Codemasters seem to be a developer that still dodges Nintendo a lot, possibly due to them locking horns years ago over the Game Genie cheat cart case for the NES/SNES. Perhaps Nintendo did over react on that one, but it's all history now, get over it.

If you look at how long the GC has been out hardly a single Codemasters game has made it to the GC, in fact I remember when a Colin Mcrae game was due out for it, but despite being completed was cancelled and just released for Xbox, PS2 and PC (go figure). If you ask me it makes crap business (correct me if I'm wrong here) sense when there's not ONE really decent rally game on the GC and a lot of GC gamers that would buy it. Can you really tell me that next to no Codematers games on GC is acceptable? I suppose it's up to them mind.

Now we have Sensible Soccer which they also can't bother with porting to GC. This why I now don't buy their games because I'd like to know their excuse for lack of GC support (despite the obvious 3rd place it occupies GC gamers would still be playing the game on the Rev too). To hell with them, I'm glad EA and Konami (on jap import as Winning Eleven but better than nothing at all) can fix us GC gamers with some footy. (hey, I have a PS2 also mind so I'm not biased)

I'm now wondering if Codemasters will bother applying for a Rev development license because they seem to treat Nintendo like the games industries Oliver Twist. A starve him and he will suffer, go away and die kind of attitude.

Respect is a two way street, but don't bite the hand that feeds you. You may need to be that dogs best friend someday and that Rev launch day draws nearer on the horizon. Should be interesting to see if Codemasters still opts for MS and Sony development then.

Nice to see SS again for it's nostalgic sake, but I honestly have to say I was never a fan of it (Let's hope there's more camera angles than those pics show, playing footy up/down field can be trickier these days). I was too busy playing ISS on my SNES and N64, games I feel were much better but over shadowed by FIFA, back in the day.

Sure Ann0uk, GC is almost at the end of it's life cycle but the Rev's backwards compatibility kind of gives GC a 'get out of jail free card' sort of life extension. If the conflicts of backwards compatbility that the Xbox 360 and PS2 have are avoided, many people will withhold selling their GC games collections. SS could have found a new audience on a Pro Evoless GC, where FIFA rules practically unchallenged. Bad business move if you ask me.
Greg2k
Joined 28 Feb 2005
107 comments
Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:21
Joji wrote:
If you look at how long the GC has been out hardly a single Codemasters game has made it to the GC, in fact I remember when a Colin Mcrae game was due out for it, but despite being completed was cancelled and just released for Xbox, PS2 and PC (go figure).

You know Colin Mcrae is on f**king N-Gage? I mean seriously, there must be NO profit margin on that system. But of course, why the hell would they settle for making a game for the GBA if they could go for the N-Gage?
NiktheGreek
Joined 20 Apr 2004
316 comments
Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:02
Greg2k wrote:
Would I sound like a raving Nintendo fanboy if I were to say Codemasters suck for INSISTINGLY ignoring Nintendo for no apparent reason?

Ah, but this where my non-Spong knowledge of you comes in. You are a raving Nintendo fanboy. =P

Greg2k wrote:
Joji wrote:
If you look at how long the GC has been out hardly a single Codemasters game has made it to the GC, in fact I remember when a Colin Mcrae game was due out for it, but despite being completed was cancelled and just released for Xbox, PS2 and PC (go figure).

You know Colin Mcrae is on f**king N-Gage? I mean seriously, there must be NO profit margin on that system. But of course, why the hell would they settle for making a game for the GBA if they could go for the N-Gage?

Except Colin McRae was indeed brought to GBA (not as recently, mind) and was developed in-house, as compared to the outsourced N-Gage version. Incidentally, the only other Codemasters games for current Nintendo platforms I could find were Pop Idol and Second Sight, both of which were only published by the company.

Personally, I have the feeling that Codemasters might have good reasons not to want to bother with Nintendo platforms. Maybe GBA development didn't work out for them, or Nintendo's developer relations in Europe are poor? There's also the fact that the type of software they put out today isn't what you'd generally associate with the Gamecube audience. Besides the MTV Music Generator series and the titles they do publish on Nintendo systems, the main Codemasters output is realistic racing simulators, sports games and war-themed games. These particular genres have never been too popular on Gamecube, and in these declining days for the system I'd imagine that they're even less profitable.

What I don't get is the slight outcry over this. Codemasters only supported the SNES and N64 with a single game each, these being ports of existing Micro Machines games that were published by other companies. Their most actively supported Nintendo system (if you don't count unlicensed NES games) was the Game Boy Color, with an astonishing five games released, again with other publishers taking on the non-development aspects in a few cases.

ann0uk wrote:
I think that is another sign of the biased attitude that the industry has towards Xbox and Playstation.

This isn't strictly true. Even before those platforms came along, Codemasters passed over Nintendo consoles in favour of Sega consoles and various home computer formats. To put it another way: Codemasters snubbed Nintendo before it became fashionable to do so.

Joji wrote:
This why I now don't buy their games because I'd like to know their excuse for lack of GC support (despite the obvious 3rd place it occupies GC gamers would still be playing the game on the Rev too).

Why is the lack of support for Nintendo consoles (something they've always been guilty of, as we've demonstrated) only causing you not to buy Codemasters games now? You have a PS2 anyway, so you can still buy most of the console games they publish. "This company doesn't develop games for one of my consoles, so I won't buy the games it does develop for the other" seems to be a slightly nonsensical way to go about things, with all due respect.
king skins
Joined 10 Mar 2005
563 comments
Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:26
didn't they have some bad blood back in the NES days when Codemasters where making unlicenced games for the NES? I think that Nintendo tried to sue them a put them out of bussiness...

Anyway a NEW SENSIBLE SOCCER!!!!!!!! f**king wikkid =D

I still remember the Mega Drive version!! :) Created my own team full of my mates :) ah so much fun
config
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2088 comments
Wed, 2 Nov 2005 14:00
Sod the Megadrive version - we want the original, classic Amiga version.


...and when do we get Cannon Fodder?

Oh, and Mr Hare; where's that version of Wizball we spoke about at E3 back in 2001?*


(*yes, I now - licensing issues, Infogrames, etc)
king skins
Joined 10 Mar 2005
563 comments
Wed, 2 Nov 2005 14:23
I was to poor to own an Amiga and had to stick with the Mega Drive version

You can get Cannon Fodder as part of the Sensible Soccer Plug n Play: http://www.firebox.com/index.html?dir=firebox&action=product&pid=1108

Also comes with Mega-Lo-Mania... and a free Sensible Soccer t-shirt

Cannon Fodder would be a good game to remake on the Revolution...
kid_77
Joined 29 Nov 2004
875 comments
Wed, 2 Nov 2005 14:37
king skins wrote:
Also comes with Mega-Lo-Mania... and a free Sensible Soccer t-shirt

Ah, Mega-lo-mania was f**king class:

"The minez been distwoyed!"

"Ergonomically tewiffic"

"Pukka design"

etc.
Patmos
Joined 2 Jun 2005
27 comments
Wed, 2 Nov 2005 16:09
wouldn't they release it as sensible "football" over in Europe? I am under the impression that their is a general frown for the word "soccer", just a question from across the pond!
TigerUppercut
Joined 28 Jun 2000
799 comments
Wed, 2 Nov 2005 16:15
Patmos wrote:
wouldn't they release it as sensible "football" over in Europe? I am under the impression that their is a general frown for the word "soccer", just a question from across the pond!

Our weird food eating buddies in Europe can use either foccer or football. I also this that Sensible Football sounds a bit rubbish.
DoctorDee
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2130 comments
Wed, 2 Nov 2005 16:31
Our weird food eating buddies in Europe can use either foccer or football. I also this that Sensible Football sounds a bit rubbish.

Erm... We're in Europe.

And it's England that has the problem with "Soccer". But the problem is predominantly with Americans stealing the name of our sport for their gay version of Rugby, and then giving football a (crap) new name. Especially when what the Americans (mistakenly) call football has demonstrably less foot/ball contact than what we (correctly) call football.
Joji
Joined 12 Mar 2004
3960 comments
Wed, 2 Nov 2005 19:43
Forgive my sometimes childish rants. What I meant was I'd have no trouble finding other games to buy than those of Codemasters. A large collection of my games are japanese games anyway, but it shouldn't always be like that. Other nations make good games, u.k included and I like other games.





gamestester
Joined 6 Aug 2004
1 comments
Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:25
Just in time for the world cup...probably going to be the fastest selling game ever in the UK.

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