Iwata: Wi-Fi Access for all – BT Deal Looms

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rascal
Joined 20 Apr 2005
23 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:00
Am I right in assuming that this will work with my current wireless G network ? In other words, I won't need to spend money buying anything except a compatible game ?
YenRug
Joined 2 Jul 2004
350 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:33
Yes, the DS should work on your existing wireless network, as long as it is B or G; the only question is the exact way to authenticate it, if you have security enabled.
ozfunghi
Joined 18 Oct 2004
283 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 14:15
True.

Do we need to open up certain ports for instance? My MSN voice conferencing doesn't work at all with my router unless i open up the right ports. Which i still haven't done because it's a hassle, i'm too lazy, it's too technical and i don't REALLY need it.

Hope they give a clear set of instructions.
Pilot13
Joined 2 Feb 2005
231 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 14:43
messenging on wi-fi? Now this is really too much. *faints*
majin dboy
Joined 27 May 2005
745 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:26
whats voip calls?
and what does san mean in japanese.eg Iwata san.
DoctorDee
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2130 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:29
The problem here is that WiFi is really not the technology for this. I mean, yeah, it's great if you're sat in Starbucks (and at any one time, approximately 17.5% of the world's population is), but if you're camping in the Yorkshire Dales (if they still allow that sort of thing) or mincing through the Scottish Glens, or even if you're over 50yrd from an access point, you're shagged.

WiMax will be the technology to make handheld wireless access a thing of great beauty and earthshattering potential.

It'll also make BT, and all those companies who spent Millions (why spend Billions when you could spend Billions) on a 3G license weep into their beer. And I bet they drink Carling.
DoctorDee
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2130 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:39
majin dboy wrote:
whats voip calls?


Voice over IP. So making (free or very very cheap) calls over the Internet, rather than the traditional circuit switched public telephone networks.

and what does san mean in japanese.eg Iwata san.

It's an honorific title.

Roughly, it means Mr. (also Mrs and Ms - it is not gender specific).

San is a polite term used for unfamiliar peers and superiors. A more friendly, informal equivalent is -kun, used for friends and colleagues. And -chan by children and among close friends.

You might want to Google for "Uchi-soto" if you are interested in the concept of Japanese ettiquette.

The most polite honorific is -sama, but this is reserved for people of very rank.

Correctly, SPOnG should maybe refer to Iwata-sama.
majin dboy
Joined 27 May 2005
745 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:10
what an intellegent doctor you are.
cheers.
Joji
Joined 12 Mar 2004
3960 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:26
Sounds good so far. With all the news from TGS still ringing in my ears, I had almost forgotten there's more to my DS than just what we are used to on a hand held.

Mario Kart and the USB thingy couldn't come any sooner, and I'm still enjoying so much on my DS already.

LordVader717
Joined 15 Apr 2004
20 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 19:47
DoctorDee wrote:
The problem here is that WiFi is really not the technology for this. I mean, yeah, it's great if you're sat in Starbucks (and at any one time, approximately 17.5% of the world's population is), but if you're camping in the Yorkshire Dales (if they still allow that sort of thing) or mincing through the Scottish Glens, or even if you're over 50yrd from an access point, you're shagged.

WiMax will be the technology to make handheld wireless access a thing of great beauty and earthshattering potential.

It'll also make BT, and all those companies who spent Millions (why spend Billions when you could spend Billions) on a 3G license weep into their beer. And I bet they drink Carling.


Only that WiMax energy consumption in tests have been so startlingly high that it is currently impractical to put it in a Laptop, let alone a portable gaming device.
Plus it's going to be targeted mainly at business costumers, at least at first, for allowing many poeple who have been sofar unable to get broadband connection a chance to experience the joy of high speed internet.

And, when, or if we do see consumer orientated WiMax for portable systems, it will probably be a subscribtion based System, that only pays off for business people.

What's wrong with normal WiFi? It's cheap, simple and decentralised.
So instead of relying on 50 km Antennas, which you'd have to pay for, why not simply hook up a WiFi router to your homeline, and rely on the already numerous possibilities to use WiFi on the go?

I mean, if someone's got access in their home, at work, on public transport, and any cafe they choose to sit down at, not to mention the recent efforts of municipal councils to offer free WiFi in active town centres, what more do they need?

Or do you spend so much time playing in abandoned industrial areas and the yorkshire dales that you need this technology so much?

The only way I might be able to imagine widespread use for WiMax is as a backbone system for cars and trains, that then gives "old" WiFi access to it's passengers, although this is already possible with UMTS.

Oh yeah, and WiMax isn't even out yet.
DoctorDee
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2130 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:10
LordVader717 wrote:
Only that WiMax energy consumption in tests have been so startlingly high that it is currently impractical to put it in a Laptop, let alone a portable gaming device.

Yes, but they will overcome that. Mannufacturers are prediicting that they will have WiMax hanndheld ready for market during 2006... and I'll bet that they'll be ready for PSP2, GameCube Pocket etc etc.

Plus it's going to be targeted mainly at business costumers, at least at first

But it won't stay that way. I don't believe it will, and I am sure that in your heart of hearts, you know it won't too. It's only 10 years ago that mobile phones were for business users only.

for allowing many poeple who have been sofar unable to get broadband connection a chance to experience the joy of high speed internet.

That may have been the intention, but with BT's change of heart, and them deciding to broadband-enable EVERY exchange, that intention has been made redundant.

And, when, or if we do see consumer orientated WiMax for portable systems, it will probably be a subscribtion based System, that only pays off for business people.

Of course it will be subscription based. But then so is your home broadband connection, so is your mobile phone, so is Sky TV.

What's wrong with normal WiFi? It's cheap, simple and decentralised.

1. Blanket coverage required tens of thousands of access points.
2. The systems do not exist to co-ordinate access points to allow easy roaming.
3. Systems that do enable roaming will actually not be decentralised, but will be controlled by corporations like BT, Vodafone etc etc.
4. Coverage outside metropolitan areas will be bad.

So instead of relying on 50 km Antennas, which you'd have to pay for, why not simply hook up a WiFi router to your homeline, and rely on the already numerous possibilities to use WiFi on the go?

I'm kind of assuming that everyone who really wants has done that by now. But that doesn't help when you are in a strange town. You then will either have to go to Starbucks, or subscribe to a BT, O2 etc system. You'll have to subscribe to their system and you'll be limited by their "network coverage".

I mean, if someone's got access in their home, at work, on public transport, and any cafe they choose to sit down at, not to mention the recent efforts of municipal councils to offer free WiFi in active town centres, what more do they need?

Once the big turn-on happens, and everyone is trying to use those access points, they will not stay free. It's the drug pusher business model, free until they are hooked, and theh charge for it. And quite simply, the cost of operating tend of thousands thousands of access points is greater than the cost of operating hundreds.

Or do you spend so much time playing in abandoned industrial areas and the yorkshire dales that you need this technology so much?

That is an inane comment, and slightly racist. The point I was making, albeit slightly prosaically is that WiMax promises more manageable way to acheive blanket wireless access.

The only way I might be able to imagine widespread use for WiMax is as a backbone system for cars and trains, that then gives "old" WiFi access to it's passengers

That is a very feasible scenario.

although this is already possible with UMTS.

Expensively, and with limited bandwidth - yes.

Oh yeah, and WiMax isn't even out yet.

If you keep your eye on today, it's tomorrow before you realise that you've fallen behind.
majin dboy
Joined 27 May 2005
745 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:55
dont know how to quote.but u will know what im talking about.Drdee how was that guy being racist? he was merly using a geographical example to back up his arguement.two things i hate in life is racism and sectarianism,and being a catholic and a quater nigerian(dad half) living in belfast n.ireland i see a lot of that s**t.if thats what you consider racism,ur lucky...
fluffstardx
Joined 20 May 2004
633 comments
Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:34
It's racist in the same way as saying to an American "or do you spend so much time shagging your cousin in some backwater hole"... It's tarring people with the "I saw it on TV, it is truth" kinda thing.
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Wed, 21 Sep 2005 02:43
or like asking an Englishman:

Q-"Are you straight?"
A-"'Fraid so, my parents could never have afforded Public school."
SPInGSPOnG
Joined 24 Jan 2004
1149 comments
Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:05
PreciousRoi wrote:
or like asking an Englishman:

Q-"Are you straight?"
A-"'Fraid so, my parents could never have afforded Public school."

Unfair.
HM Prisons offer the British proletariat an equal opportunity entry to the world of sodomy.
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