Slimline PlayStation 2 for £60 – 360 Spoiler Looms

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Greg2k
Joined 28 Feb 2005
107 comments
Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:08
Mario Kart bundle? What sort of a joke is that? It's been out for ages. They should have had a Smash Bros. Melee bundle the day the game came out.

And will there be another price slash for the Cube? I think they're devaluating it too briskly. Nobody would want to buy a 40 quid console.
sub uk
Joined 29 Jul 2005
7 comments
Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:19
I don't understand how this is going to be a 360 spoiler? i scanned the text for a reason, but nope.

This new low price playstation 2 will be great for poor people. Didn't think that the market for budget consoles interfered too much with the early adopters.

i have 3 ps2's now and im about to bin them. heh, still have that one that gareth 'chipped'.

Ditto
Joined 10 Jun 2004
1169 comments
Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:37
Greg2k wrote:
Mario Kart bundle? What sort of a joke is that? It's been out for ages. They should have had a Smash Bros. Melee bundle the day the game came out.

And will there be another price slash for the Cube? I think they're devaluating it too briskly. Nobody would want to buy a 40 quid console.


I'd say the Gamecube is becoming as dead as the dodo now.

Many of the GAME shops near me have stopped stocking it and any games, and even the biggest have reduced it to a small stand next to the PSone titles. Gamestation have a fair range, however even that is shrinking further every time I go in.

The Twlight Princess won't have that much impact. If Resident Evil 4 didn't cause shops to make Gamecube the centre of attention, then the new Zelda won't either. Especially not when the 360 is being hyped so much - GAME are already giving free lectures on how great the 360 will be. No joke; they appear to have trained their staff in 360-hyping.

I agree about the Smash Bros Bundle. That game sold a lot of Cubes on its own.
kid_77
Joined 29 Nov 2004
875 comments
Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:50
Greg2k wrote:
Nobody would want to buy a 40 quid console.

Ha-ha, good one. You nearly had me there.
Joji
Joined 12 Mar 2004
3960 comments
Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:38
Well I know GC is going for £50 in Toys R Us. I for one am snapping up as much GC games as I can get my hands on, damn good thing I have a Freeloader so I can bag imports once the rivers of Game and Gamestation dry up.

Atleast Nintendo have given us that (by turning a blind eye) option where Sony haven't.

Jeez got hunt me a copy of Ikaruga on GC. Not really bothered about Game and stuff because ebay is really a god send to all gamers.
kid_77
Joined 29 Nov 2004
875 comments
Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:48
Joji wrote:
Jeez got hunt me a copy of Ikaruga on GC. Not really bothered about Game and stuff because ebay is really a god send to all gamers.

Simply Games are selling it for the rather anomalous price of £15.89. Though you may find better.
nasim007
Joined 29 Jul 2005
9 comments
Fri, 29 Jul 2005 16:52
could prove to be a very effective move especially when the x360 is proved to be much inferior and less powerful compared to ps3.......x360 has absolutely no chance against ps3....most people would prefer ps2 rather than x360......i think sony would launch their console in sepetember 2006....by the time x360 might sell 5 million units but again that might not happen....THE CELL hype has demolished x360 ....it cannot win but certainly it could recover the opportunity costs for microsoft..
if ms is clever they sd leave the market

they are surely daydreaming....they expect to sell million consoles in japan where xbox sell only 150 consoles as opposed to 30000 for ps2 per month............with a console as superior as xbox they crashed in japan...now what made them think that they could sell significant number of units when it is already proved that their console is much inferior....although they have tagged up with the japanese developers the good titles like,DMCry,tekken,FF(one that is being developed exclusively for ps3) remain exclusive to ps3....even the games that were released way before on ps2 like dynasty warriors 5 ,ffXI....are now being released on x360!!!!lol.....how could someone be fooled this way???kuturagi's comment would come true....x360 would fight ps2 and die eventually...

gta san andreas sold over 13 million units on ps2 and just around 1 million units on xbox.....in order to mar ps2's image MS has invented stories comprising of an 85 year old who bought 17+ rated gta for her 14 year old grandson................what a shame....this is similiar to iraq invasion.....u cant do everything according to your wish..
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:41
*proclaims 007 the neocarrillo memorial award winner*

(...For outstanding achievements in the field of Fanboyism)

pfft...twit.
fluffstardx
Joined 20 May 2004
633 comments
Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:16
It's right up there with "we will spoil PS3 launch with... a game". 3 rabid Sony fans I know have told me "oh my God, I am buying a 360. That PS3 looks s**t, and you can't deny it."

Sony are, frankly, bricking it. Industry peeps have said not too quietly "the gap between the 2 machines is not as big as Sony would like you to believe", Sony fans have railed against the design, MS have beaten them to market, and they've been undercut in price. They hope this will win a few more sales, and it will. But it won't stop early adopters. And that means, this plan's failed already.

I really, REALLY wish the GC sold better. Such a lovely, powerful, underappreciated machine. On the plus side, nice cheap Cube to play LoZ:TP on til I can get my hands on a Rev...
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Sat, 30 Jul 2005 04:04
The most pitiful thing about it is, I, though admittedly a layman, know enough about the two designs to know that people who know a lot more than I know, don't know...that is, exactly what either machine is truly capable of. Such will also, in my admittedly limited understanding depend increasingly upon the programmers ability to correctly and effectivly utilise the unique capabilities of the hardware in question. SO, Sony can trumpet 2 gigaWhoozits all they want, and they are, but I think that MS obviously has the edge in two or three important areas which will become crucial in the next cycle (online gaming/networking/media hub and HiDef).

But this wasnt supposed to be a response to the fanboy in question's argument (if it can be called such), because nothing is gonna get through to that guy, and I am certainly not about to take sides, though if I had to make a bet on something in the next gen it would be that Sony loses some market share to MS. (fanboys will no doubt read the preceding statment as:"MS will totally pwn Sony" so I will repeat myself...) MS will increase its own market share at the expense of Sony.

But in any event, making any judgements about the actual performance of EITHER machine is premature, the very designs of the processors make our current frame of references suspect and possibly obsolete-ish.

Oh yeah, hey, jackass, yeah, you... I just saw something on AOTS about that fictional grandmother, apparently shes filed a fictional lawsuit in fictional court, all the fictional media are probably covering it. Well MSNBC probably will, or do you think that would be too obvioous? Does that tinfoil hat of yours pick up MSNBC? If you have to watch Imus I feel sorry for you, might have something to do with why you disconnected from reality...something to think about when you go back on your meds....
fluffstardx
Joined 20 May 2004
633 comments
Sun, 31 Jul 2005 00:02
I hate to pee in his milkshake, but the vast majority of consumers have no f**king idea what the hell CELL is, never mind what it can do.

And the people that do, my IT tech support mates, all think it sounds like an overcomplicated pile of tosh.
tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Mon, 1 Aug 2005 07:52
fluffstardx wrote:
And the people that do, my IT tech support mates, all think it sounds like an overcomplicated pile of tosh.

And yet the people who know more than your mates, i.e. the blokes at IBM who design chips for a living, thought it was good enough and powerful enough to design and build.

Also their managers thought it was good enough to fund development of and Sony and Toshiba management thought it was good enough to contribute funds to development and fabrication.

All of these companies are putting more money into the development of this chip than all of us put together will see in our collective lifetimes. They aren't doing this because they want to throw money away.

The guys at Epic thought it was good to develop for and ported the new Unreal engine to it in under a month.

But hold on! fluffstardx's IT tech support mates think it's an overcomplicated pile of tosh. Well, if that doesn't set the cat among the pigeons.

IBM, Sony and Toshiba are looking pretty stupid now! They shouldn't have spent all that money on their VLSI engineers, software engineers, design teams or fab plants. They should have just asked a few of fluffstardx's mates how complicated it looks.
sub uk
Joined 29 Jul 2005
7 comments
Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:42
tyrion wrote:
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lmao,

top quality.
config
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2088 comments
Mon, 1 Aug 2005 09:55
Welcome back, dude
kid_77
Joined 29 Nov 2004
875 comments
Mon, 1 Aug 2005 10:13
And the devlopment tools are coming along nicely, apparently.

Sony recently acquired Blighty's very own SN Systems and formed "strategic alliances" with Ageia Technologies, Havok and Epic Games.

Will be interesting to see how XNA compares...
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