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GeoffHoonMP
Joined 11 Feb 2005
7 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 12:34
That would be a G5 - not a G4 enclosure.

I don't see anything bespoke about the enclosure, either, looks a lot like my G5 - unless you call that sticker 'bespoke' - in which case - I don't want to go to your tailor.

And how the hell are you presenting those image links - some evil JS rubbish, what's wrong with normal links...?
BraveArse
Joined 23 Mar 2005
5 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:02
Not only that but I the last time I saw a G5 in an office it wasn't floating in space bathed in orange light...

Looks like a standard marketing brochure shot to me...
Mendez
Joined 21 Feb 2005
59 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:29
GeoffHoonMP wrote:

And how the hell are you presenting those image links - some evil JS rubbish, what's wrong with normal links...?

lol. maybe it's to piss off ludite c**ts like you. lol
Mendez
Joined 21 Feb 2005
59 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:33
BraveArse wrote:
Not only that but I the last time I saw a G5 in an office it wasn't floating in space bathed in orange light...

Looks like a standard marketing brochure shot to me...


Brochure shot? Are you serious? You see many brochures with out-off-focus, poorly lit subjects?

It's clearly a snapshot with a comped out background to eliminate any incriminating evidence.
DoctorDee
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2130 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:38
GeoffHoonMP wrote:
That would be a G5 - not a G4 enclosure.


You are correct. Stef is an idiot, unschooled in the ways of the Macintosh, or of using Google, or of writing things that are correct.

If you see him around, give him a chinese burn, and tell him it's from me.
SPInGSPOnG
Joined 24 Jan 2004
1149 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:43
GeoffHoonMP wrote:
some evil JS rubbish, what's wrong with normal links...?


Wha the f**k is evil about JavaScript? Vast expanses of the Internet rely in it.

Go read a book. Computers are clearly too advanced for you.
GeoffHoonMP
Joined 11 Feb 2005
7 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:52
Mendez wrote:
lol. maybe it's to piss off ludite c**ts like you. lol


Thanks for calling me a c**t, I'm glad to see that the UK:R invasion had an effect on you spongers - but let me slightly correct your analogy:

Using f**king evilly custom-coded javascript hacks to open a link is not an improvement on the existing, and perfectly valid mechanism for loading new pages that _every_ other site on the web uses - in fact it's a retrograde step - because it causes bugs like:

1 - me having to refresh this page manually to get any new posts every time I visit it.

2 - not being able to open links and image links in new tabs.

I don't see these bugs in any other site on the web.

(please note - this is not a rant against JS - just against the context in which it is used on this site.)
GeoffHoonMP
Joined 11 Feb 2005
7 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 13:59
Rod Todd wrote:
Wha the f**k is evil about JavaScript? Vast expanses of the Internet rely in it.

Go read a book. Computers are clearly too advanced for you.


vast exanses of the internet do not rely on JS - networks have seven layers - some applications that run on the web (which is at the application (top) layer of the net) use javascript.

Here's a book for you to read:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/156205810X/002-0045772-3918419?v=glance
fluffstardx
Joined 20 May 2004
633 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:39
JavaScript is not liked by my PC. True story. No idea why either. Hates Java, though.

There are too many Xbox 360/Xenon shots on the net. A friend of mine proclaimed proudly yesterday he'd seen the real one, and it'll be transparent with chrome-effect plastic. Seeing as ourcolony is supposed to be the site to give away the secrets, and that shows it all as white, I think he's seen yet another of the protos.
Ditto
Joined 10 Jun 2004
1169 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:13
GeoffHoonMP wrote:
Mendez wrote:
lol. maybe it's to piss off ludite c**ts like you. lol


Thanks for calling me a c**t, I'm glad to see that the UK:R invasion had an effect on you spongers


That was bit rash for a regular, Geoff and Rodd.

I don't have Javascript installed either, as I use Firefox and Javascript didn't come with the package. I haven't got time to download the file over my dial-up line.
config
Joined 3 Sep 1999
2088 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 17:53
GeoffHoonMP wrote:
Using f**king evilly custom-coded javascript hacks to open a link is not an improvement on the existing, and perfectly valid mechanism for loading new pages that _every_ other site on the web uses - in fact it's a retrograde step - because it causes bugs like:

The JavaScript thing is a layover from the days of images being shown in a pop-up. Plus it foils out-of-the-box spider software from snaffling our images, which is nice.

1 - me having to refresh this page manually to get any new posts every time I visit it.

Odd that, give that the forum explicitly sends "Expires", "Pragma" and "Cache-Control" headers (verified using Firefox's Live HTTP Header extension).

Assuming you haven't got some crazy browser config, I sincerely suggest you're viewing the world via a fscked up caching proxy.

2 - not being able to open links and image links in new tabs.


When more pressing things are cleared, I'll get those links sorted. As for the images, that's likely to stay. Sorry.

I don't see these bugs in any other site on the web.


Bugs. Features. Tom-ay-toes. Tom-ar-toes. Any other sites? I'll bet you do.


tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 18:12
Adam M wrote:
I don't have Javascript installed either, as I use Firefox and Javascript didn't come with the package. I haven't got time to download the file over my dial-up line.

You've got Firefox? You've got JavaScript.

Please don't fall into the Netscape-inspired trap of confusing Java (a compiled language from Sun) and JavaScript (an intepreted language originally from Netscape, now an ECMA standard produced by many, many companies).

JavaScript was originally called LiveScript, which tied in with Netscape's Live Connect technology. Then Java hit and Netscape decided to rebrand to catch the hype wave! People have been getting them confused ever since.

If you can use the buttons to the left of the forum message edit box, you have JavaScript and it's turned on. If you can click on a large image in the forums and see the full size image, you have JavaScript and it's turned on.
SPInGSPOnG
Joined 24 Jan 2004
1149 comments
Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:18
GeoffHoonMP wrote:
vast exanses of the internet do not rely on JS


Well, we could get down to semantics if you like. But the Web is a part of the Internet. This cow IS an animal.

- networks have seven layers -


Under the BRM for OSI model they do. But the model is outdated, it was created in the late seventies and deals specifically with WANs, not interconnected LANs using IP. It was flawed when it was invented. The session layer, for instance, exists primarily to give the Germans somewhere to stick their T.62 protocol.

The bottom three layers reflect X.25 specifically, and are not particularly relevant to IP networking. Alternative and more contemporary models exist which frame TCP/IP networks within four (sometimes five) layers.

some applications that run on the web (which is at the application (top) layer of the net) use javascript.


Server-side JavaScript, while still in the application layer can be used for many non HTTP applications.


Here's a book for you to read:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/156205810X/002-0045772-3918419?v=glance


I am familiar with Nielsen's work. He is an over rated, overly conservative, and dismissive of valid innovation. There are many better books on the subject.

While SPOnG use of JavaScript adds nothing, nor does it take anything away.

My sugestion that you "go read a book" was not so you could learn about computers. Rather to give you something to do so that you could avoid using them, and their "evil JavaScript".
warbaby
Joined 8 Mar 2005
142 comments
Fri, 22 Apr 2005 01:25
can anybody explain to me why a microsoft dev kit is house in a Mac computer??

SPInGSPOnG
Joined 24 Jan 2004
1149 comments
Fri, 22 Apr 2005 05:58
warbaby wrote:
can anybody explain to me why a microsoft dev kit is house in a Mac computer??


Because XBox 360 and Macintosh G5 share the same/a similar CPU architecture. Therefore, by shoving the NextBox GPU and custom hardware on a card, you can very easily make a G5 into something approximating an XBox 360.

A PC could not easily do the same things (it would have to emulate the CPU, or require a CPU daughter board).

So while Apple may be Microsoft's "Enemy" in the desktop battle, they are a useful ally in the war for total computing domination. But the kind of ally that will be used, and thrown away once the war is won.
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