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whiffer
Joined 7 Mar 2005
4 comments
Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:26
((wet my pants))

This is only a sneak peak...wait till E3, the lid is gonna blow off!
Pandaman
Joined 19 Mar 2004
466 comments
Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:45
New Zelda, online, etc...

What I'm surprised about here is the backwards compatibility. That means baring just a port for a Gamecube controller, there WILL be buttons on this Revolution thing.
whiffer
Joined 7 Mar 2005
4 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:44
Alan is my first name wrote:
New Zelda, online, etc...

What I'm surprised about here is the backwards compatibility. That means baring just a port for a Gamecube controller, there WILL be buttons on this Revolution thing.


NOT NECESSARLY, it is possible the wireless capabilities of the Revolution will maybe act as a dark horse to get people to buy their Wavebird wireless controllers, not likely, but very possible. Which means the next system doesnt necessarly have to have a controller, it just allows a wavebird to play gamecube games.
Pandaman
Joined 19 Mar 2004
466 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 01:00
whiffer wrote:
Alan is my first name wrote:
New Zelda, online, etc...

What I'm surprised about here is the backwards compatibility. That means baring just a port for a Gamecube controller, there WILL be buttons on this Revolution thing.


NOT NECESSARLY, it is possible the wireless capabilities of the Revolution will maybe act as a dark horse to get people to buy their Wavebird wireless controllers, not likely, but very possible. Which means the next system doesnt necessarly have to have a controller, it just allows a wavebird to play gamecube games.


...or just have a Gamecube controller port.

But honestly, don't you think that it would be dumb to make consumers have a Gamecube controller to play Gamecube games? Obviously, if they have a Gamecube controller, that means they have a Gamecube.
ohms
Joined 10 May 2003
528 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 01:08
animal crossing, wi-fi, global, too much to take in...

Jayenkai
Joined 29 Jan 2004
37 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 01:45
Yeah! Go Nintendo!

And I'll be geting my DS in less than 8 hours time!..

Wooohoo!
Animal Crossing! Can't wait!
ozfunghi
Joined 18 Oct 2004
283 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 03:13
At times like these i always hear the "Rocky" theme in the back of my head.

SPInGSPOnG
Joined 24 Jan 2004
1149 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:16
Alan is my first name wrote:
Obviously, if they have a Gamecube controller, that means they have a Gamecube.


Yeah, but one of the best things about backwards compatibility is being able to thow your "old tec" away - and keep on keeping on.
ohms
Joined 10 May 2003
528 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:47
As always, I'm excited about Nintendo's future plans (to say the least), and they look very promising indeed, but if they continue their piss poor marketing then it's all for nothing. Just looking at their DS campaign, or lack of, in the UK, I see so many missed opportunities there it drives me nuts.

In the end, that will be as important, of not more, than having great hardware, software and an online strategy.


But still... Animal Crossing Online, WOOHOOOO!!!!! YES!! OH YES!!!! ....ahem, sorry. :D
king skins
Joined 10 Mar 2005
563 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:33
Rod Todd wrote:
Alan is my first name wrote:
Obviously, if they have a Gamecube controller, that means they have a Gamecube.


Yeah, but one of the best things about backwards compatibility is being able to thow your "old tec" away - and keep on keeping on.


You can't throw them out! lol

I've still got my DreamCast and that only works for 30secs before it turns it's self off. Still got the Maraca's as well ;)

Nintendo, need to do two things in MHO, more third party support and new IP! Zelda and Mario games are good but I have resisted buying a gamecube so far just for those two games.

I'm hoping that the Revolution will be able to do what they are promising and will revolutionise gaming... but i'm not holding out much hope... i have a feeling they are going to end up with a niche market.

if it is that revolutionary how are they going to sell it to the mass market? those people how just buy endless iterations of FIFA and GTA. Will they be able to market it to them?
Ditto
Joined 10 Jun 2004
1169 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:01
king skins wrote:

Nintendo, need to do two things in MHO, more third party support and new IP! Zelda and Mario games are good but I have resisted buying a gamecube so far just for those two games.


Nintendo will not survive without more third parties and more IP. However, the Gamecube is the best console for good games in my opinion. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Resident Evil, Smash Bros, 1080 and the list goes on.

The second biggest problem is the fact that they still produce kiddie games. They need to produce adult games even if it is just outside of Japan.

Third biggest problem in Europe is that fact that Nintendo have no idea how to promote a product. This will haunt them until they get it right.

I'm hoping that the Revolution will be able to do what they are promising and will revolutionise gaming... but i'm not holding out much hope... i have a feeling they are going to end up with a niche market.


Quite possible if they don't cure the points above.

if it is that revolutionary how are they going to sell it to the mass market? those people how just buy endless iterations of FIFA and GTA. Will they be able to market it to them?


The most revolutionary technology is that that becomes mass-market. Technology will only sell if it is innovative and different to the rest of the market. However if it is too [i]different[i] it could scare people off.

The GC compatability is vital and brilliant, and I'ms ure the Revolution will stay up there with the Xbox2/PS3.
ohms
Joined 10 May 2003
528 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 12:15
Adam M wrote:
The most revolutionary technology is that that becomes mass-market. Technology will only sell if it is innovative and different to the rest of the market. However if it is too [i]different[i] it could scare people off.


possibly, but look at Eyetoy, something never seen before, and to be honest I thought it would never catch on, but look at the sales in the UK alone, this is something that we would have expected from the Nintendo of old. and it counters my previous point about marketing somewhat, bacause in the end it's popularity spread largely to word-of mouth.
Nintendo can do this, innovative tech that brings gaming to a wider audience, but they have to really sell it to people, which means market the f**k out of it, so at least eveyone knows there's a unique alternative there, and they've gotta make it look cool too.

Adam M wrote:
The GC compatability is vital and brilliant, and I'ms ure the Revolution will stay up there with the Xbox2/PS3.


here's hoping. GC compatibility is a welcome move, but I really think supporting NES, SNES and N64 roms out of the box, would be a killer move by Nintendo. Not a console-war winning move of course, but a great step to legitimising emulation, giving us a legal way to do it, and considering how well retro compilations sell, adding another big plus point for owning a Revolution.
tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:18
whiffer wrote:
NOT NECESSARLY, it is possible the wireless capabilities of the Revolution will maybe act as a dark horse to get people to buy their Wavebird wireless controllers, not likely, but very possible. Which means the next system doesnt necessarly have to have a controller, it just allows a wavebird to play gamecube games.

The problem with wireless as in Wi-Fi networking (802.11a,b or g) is that it is quite a high power consumption standard. There are moves afoot to get a low-power version aut to compete with the likes of bluetooth, but nothing yet.

Nintendo would have been better off putting Bluetooth into the DS and using that for local communications and gaming. Then with BT in the Rev, that could be used for controller wireless and DS interaction.

You'd still have 802.11 in the Rev for Internet connectivity, power consumption not being a big problem when plugged into the mains.

The good thing with wireless controllers using a standard like BT or 802.11 is that you have have loads of devices connected at once.

Imagine a footy game on the Rev with a full 22 players!! Party games? You ain't seen nothing yet!

Edit Just thought, wireless controllers for the PS3 would get away from the "only two ports" thing that Sony seems to have suffered under.
Joji
Joined 12 Mar 2004
3960 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 16:32
Well we waited and now we have some concrete evidence. E3 is clearly gonna be a blinder this year and these juicy news bites have me more excited than anything MS or Sony put up.

Rev and DS (and GBA2 don't forget) online is a greatly welcomed and long overdue move. Backwards compatbility is super sweet (especially if GBA2 can also run GC games too as some say) and personally I wasn't gonna sell my GC stuff anyway. People have to get used to keeping more of their stuff while buying more and this kind of compatibility

The funny thing is that with the likes of Argos and Dixons etc having bailed on stocking GC and games, they will be eating there hats now because it's clear GC is gonna be around as a budget sytem under Rev. And even if the GCs won't sell the games will. As for the developers who also bailed on GC they are gonna look pretty stupid as they crawl back for a Rev dev kit. Ah the taste of humble pie.

If Nintendo offer old SNES roms for download onto DS for a price I am so there. All looking good from Nintendo's camp but improvements could be made with their eu marketing.
Big_Erk
Joined 11 Mar 2005
2 comments
Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:43
tyrion wrote:
Nintendo would have been better off putting Bluetooth into the DS and using that for local communications and gaming. Then with BT in the Rev, that could be used for controller wireless and DS interaction.



The problem with Bluetooth is that it is a short range networking solution. It does not handle obstacles well. That;'s why it's mainly used in cellphones and other devices where a range of a few feet is desirable.

I've used the DS's wireless to play First Hunt and could move to well over 75 feet from my opponent before there were connectio issues.

Bluetooth may work well for controller connections to the main console but it is not suitable for networking the units together.
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