World Plays Catch-up. Xbox 2 to Hit Q4 This Year

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Ditto
Joined 10 Jun 2004
1169 comments
Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:36
I bet it won't be a party for customers.
marmaduke
Joined 9 Nov 2004
36 comments
Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:45
Gamespot are also reporting that you will be able to play games on it.
TigerUppercut
Joined 28 Jun 2000
799 comments
Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:49
Adam M wrote:
I bet it won't be a party for customers.

You're right.
At the Xbox launch some mad stuff happened.
A certain games industry executive who must remain nameless, decided the lure of being in Virgin Megastore in a party was too much and helped himself to the A section of CDs. He was caught and fled, exiting through an emergency door and setting off the alarm.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!
LOL, fun times...
Hey, we might be able to blag in some of our regular readers. Worth a shot anyway!
If you were to contribute to the site, it'd even be legit!
Pandaman
Joined 19 Mar 2004
466 comments
Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:52
I don't think I've ever un-anticipated a console as much as the "X-box 2".

I mean, seriously...it honestly is the most obvious minimal upgrade of concept and design I can recall in recent memory. I wouldn't be surprised if at E3, Microsoft touts the X-Box 2 as a superior system because they upped the graphics and made the casing smaller.

Not to say extreme innovation is the right way to go either necessarily. Nintendo's Revolution will either be amazing or rediculous. But Nintendo never got to where they were by being the same, so it would be silly to think they'd release another Virtual Boy, so to speak. They're smarter than that.
Autobot
Joined 28 Oct 2004
72 comments
Sat, 12 Feb 2005 04:06
Cute article Spong, its almost equivalent to puffing your chest out prancing around with a big grin (you go boys!).

Now for the "news" I find it that the NeXtXbox or Xenon has been the most secretive console ever to be released. Usually console makers place there new technology on an alter and say "look at what I did!" then we go ooooh and aaaaaah for about a year then when it comes out, the hype is so sickening that we hate the system before it even comes out. Then when the dust settles we go oooooh and aaaaah again because of the quality games.

Microsoft has changed things, we hate them before announcing there new technology but the wierd thing they have not given ANY information of the new system. The system is comming out in around 8 months and we don't know what it looks like or how fast its going to be. Most ooohs and aaaaahs are from the fact the XBOX division actually became profitable. Very weird indeed.


Just so you all know, I love my current XBOX and plan on buying the Xenon.
SPInGSPOnG
Joined 24 Jan 2004
1149 comments
Sat, 12 Feb 2005 08:09
Autobot wrote:
Cute article Spong, its almost equivalent to puffing your chest out prancing around with a big grin (you go boys!).


You know... pride is a sin.

But so is driving too fast, taking drugs, f**king your neighbor's hot trophy wife, or getting blown by a ten-dolla whore.

And all of those things are more fun than playing Halo.
kid_77
Joined 29 Nov 2004
875 comments
Sat, 12 Feb 2005 11:42
Rod Todd wrote:
Autobot wrote:
Cute article Spong, its almost equivalent to puffing your chest out prancing around with a big grin (you go boys!).


You know... pride is a sin.

But so is driving too fast, taking drugs, f**king your neighbor's hot trophy wife, or getting blown by a ten-dolla whore.

And all of those things are more fun than playing Halo.


Along with every other videogame, Rod.
shearDS
Joined 31 Dec 2004
42 comments
Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:24
Autobot wrote:
Now for the "news" I find it that the NeXtXbox or Xenon has been the most secretive console ever to be released. Usually console makers place there new technology on an alter and say "look at what I did!" then we go ooooh and aaaaaah for about a year then when it comes out, the hype is so sickening that we hate the system before it even comes out. Then when the dust settles we go oooooh and aaaaah again because of the quality games.

Most ooohs and aaaaahs are from the fact the XBOX division actually became profitable. Very weird indeed.


Actually i think the revolution is more secretive because we don't even know how the games will be played! with xbox 2 we will most likely just recieve the same thing with upgraded spec!

And xbox division profitable lol don't make me laugh! they have been losing millions a year on the xbox. One quarter near the end of the xbox life doesn't make xbox division profitable they still have to make up for the hugh amount they lost before then!
SPInGSPOnG
Joined 24 Jan 2004
1149 comments
Sun, 13 Feb 2005 06:52
shearDS wrote:
One quarter near the end of the xbox life doesn't make xbox division profitable


And can they repeat it in a quarter without Halo2 release and without the marketing/guilt-powered Christmas buying frenzy?
fluffstardx
Joined 20 May 2004
633 comments
Sun, 13 Feb 2005 08:36
Alan is my first name wrote:
I mean, seriously...it honestly is the most obvious minimal upgrade of concept and design I can recall in recent memory. I wouldn't be surprised if at E3, Microsoft touts the X-Box 2 as a superior system because they upped the graphics and made the casing smaller.


Big jumps aren't made any more; look at Sony re-releasing a smaller version of their consoles at the end of the lifespan, and how little innovation the PS2 had. The Cube's biggest innovation was a carry handle...

I can't help but feel that whatever Microsoft call this damn thing, the biggest innovation it'll have is moving closer to being a PC. Heck, i wouldn't die of shock if it had USB2, keyboard and mouse ports, and a port for an LCD monitor.

Still, i can't wait to see what it can handle, and what they're doing with Live et al...
auzdafluff
Joined 27 Jan 2004
59 comments
Sun, 13 Feb 2005 17:26
fluffstardx wrote:
Alan is my first name wrote:
I mean, seriously...it honestly is the most obvious minimal upgrade of concept and design I can recall in recent memory. I wouldn't be surprised if at E3, Microsoft touts the X-Box 2 as a superior system because they upped the graphics and made the casing smaller.


Big jumps aren't made any more; look at Sony re-releasing a smaller version of their consoles at the end of the lifespan, and how little innovation the PS2 had. The Cube's biggest innovation was a carry handle...

I can't help but feel that whatever Microsoft call this damn thing, the biggest innovation it'll have is moving closer to being a PC. Heck, i wouldn't die of shock if it had USB2, keyboard and mouse ports, and a port for an LCD monitor.

Still, i can't wait to see what it can handle, and what they're doing with Live et al...
Exactly, if we want to get onto the aspect of innovation, the PS2 had f**k all innovation, F**K ALL. Bet you lot who are responsible are bitching are only doing it because of the company behind it.

The Xbox 2 might not end up being the most innovative console but with multi-threading expected, HD-TV support and a tentitive step towards ending incompatabilty of formats (XNA and compatability with PC's over live) i'd say thats pretty innovative.

Oh and I know that the PS3 will probably have these things but they are only innovations when they come out in the first product, and that will be the Xbox 2.

It really gets on my tits that people will bend over backwards to have a go at Microsoft because of their other operations. The Xbox team has been amazing compared to Sony's complete and utter arrogance and their irritating complacenty.

People bitch that Microsoft is this all encompassing megalith that wants to buy everything and control it. Well what do you think every businesses motivations are? You think if Sony weren't in the same position Microsoft they wouldn't abuse it.

If anything Sony are worse, I bet most of you wouldn't be able to name its president. OK so, Bill Gates ain't the most attractive guy in the world, ok he might be one of the least, but at least he is prepared to be the figurehead of the company, the same with Iwata and Nintendo.

Kutagari is the closest Sony has ever had and he was an arrogant and stubborn man, something that made the original Playstation such a success and brilliant machine.

I mean, I am going to make reference to spongs forums in my independant study for university on fan cultures within video games as an example of unbased anti-fans. The hatred of Microsoft stems not from its Xbox console but from the whole, its so cool to bash Microsoft mentality.

I mean, so many people make the point of Microsoft having no basis to enter the console industry, they were making games back in the early 90's. Sony had the disasterous MSX way back in the 80's, back before the Famicom was big in the US.

Its as immature as the people who use religion as an excuse to fight.

And as for your information, I might hate some Nintendo fans but thats because they are arrogant to**ers on the whole, I have nothing against the company or its games. With Sony its their 'Its like plugging into the Matrix' bullsh*t hyping of their products. Sure the PS2 was special at the time but it was no where near that good and never will be.

Thats enough of a rant for now...
DeepFraught
Joined 11 Jun 2004
16 comments
Sun, 13 Feb 2005 22:57
Ben Furfie wrote:
The Xbox 2 might not end up being the most innovative console but with multi-threading expected, HD-TV support and a tentitive step towards ending incompatabilty of formats (XNA and compatability with PC's over live) i'd say thats pretty innovative.

man I've seen you froth your blind lust of xbox on this forum before, and I've put it down to fanboyism, brand loyalty or a microsoft kickback. Do you even have the smallest clue about how multithreading is (or isn't) going to make a huge difference for gaming, or are you just sucking down and sicking back up the diahrrea spooned onto your plate by the boys in marketing (or other forums)?

hdtv support? pc cards have supported hdtv output for quite a while now. my clunky old ati even spits it out.

The online gaming incompatability between pc and xbox games is joke. There's no good reason for pc games not to be live enabled other than a strategic decision within microsoft.

ben. none of what you've offered is even close to being innovative. The only interesting thing coming in the next cycle is cell but, just as sony's wunerkind emotion engine's turned out to be an ephemeral marketing jape, this may well end up an expensive and difficult-to-program mistake.

until then, let's take it easy with the "facts" we seem way too happy to drink down.
tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:10
Ben Furfie wrote:
It really gets on my tits that people will bend over backwards to have a go at Microsoft because of their other operations. The Xbox team has been amazing compared to Sony's complete and utter arrogance and their irritating complacenty.

Designed completely new hardware vs put a PC in a box? OK, cheap shot, but why are the XBox team so much better than Sony's Playstation team?

Ben Furfie wrote:
People bitch that Microsoft is this all encompassing megalith that wants to buy everything and control it. Well what do you think every businesses motivations are? You think if Sony weren't in the same position Microsoft they wouldn't abuse it.

If Sony were in the same position as Microsoft, then they would get as much bitching as Microsoft does. However, they aren't, so they don't.

Ben Furfie wrote:
If anything Sony are worse, I bet most of you wouldn't be able to name its president. OK so, Bill Gates ain't the most attractive guy in the world, ok he might be one of the least, but at least he is prepared to be the figurehead of the company, the same with Iwata and Nintendo.

So Sony is evil because we don't know who the company head is? That makes sense! Do you know the head of Amnesty International? Greenpeace? OK, easy one, Save the Children? No? Then they must be evil too! What are you trying to say here?

Ben Furfie wrote:
I mean, I am going to make reference to spongs forums in my independant study for university on fan cultures within video games as an example of unbased anti-fans. The hatred of Microsoft stems not from its Xbox console but from the whole, its so cool to bash Microsoft mentality.

Why do XBox fans have this fanatical desire to try and separate Microsoft's gaming division from the rest of the corporation? Just because the Nazis gave Germany the motorway, VW Beetle and trains that ran on time, we should ignore that messy war thing?

S**t, I've just invoked Goodwin's law, we'll never get this finished! :-)

Sure the XBox is a competent console, it's a snapshot in time of the PC, it has an easy to program architecture, great graphics and very good sound. It's also made by the company that has lied, cheated and stolen its way to the top of the PC industry, crushing, buying or copying every innovation that has come along to try and dethrone it and is trying to do the same in every other market it enters.

Gaming does not exist in a vacuum!

Notice very few people attack the XBox its self, or the gaming experience it supplies. Some people don't like the controller (I'm one of them), but a lot of the games are great, Live is the best online service out there and many, many people get a load of enjoyment out of their XBoxes.

The problem is the people who made it work for a corporation that not only lusts after "world domination", but is almost there and has more chance than any other corporation of going the distance. The XBox could quite easily be used as a means to further that end, indeed it could be the lynchpin.

However, the kicker is that even the government of the country that the corporation is managed from can't, or won't, do anything about its continued, proven, criminal practices.

Ben Furfie wrote:
Thats enough of a rant for now...

Yeah, same here, I need to get some sleep.
fluffstardx
Joined 20 May 2004
633 comments
Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:48
Microsoft are only in the lead for one market, though...

Now Sony, they want your entire electronics setup. PSX was an attempt at that, as by what they're saying is Cell.

And the only real innovation in the next round we still don't know, because Cell really isn't that innovative. Seriosuly, server tech companies have been attempting it for years. Heck, from the rumours spewing from the pit known as internet, the new Ninty's controller will probably be it...
kid_77
Joined 29 Nov 2004
875 comments
Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:00
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