Exclusive: Sega's New NiGHTS Game for Wii – Confirmed

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Dun pay no rent tho. :P

ROFL. Seriously, those replies were worth a good laugh, thanks.

Lawl, trying to figure out which is true = "spite-filled hater nit picking". I'll have to remember that. But it's unfortunate that your argument fails. I haven't even HEARD of Spong until this thread's original article was posted on a forum that I frequent. The fact that you attempt to police someone who innocently questions faulty statements from an article, and dictate to them how their first post should've been written shows your credibility, or lack there-of. I knew that IGN was bad, but wow. You're even worse. =( Shame on you all.

There's nothing wrong with questioning an article. In hindsight, the only thing people were picking apart with your post was your hostility towards us.

What many SPOnGers were venting about is the fact that our reputation as some sort of "liars" precedes us. There are things that this site have revealed well before others had that we never had been credited for. Case in point, the XBOX 360 name. I've not been on the team long so can't really give many more examples, but I'm sure others will be happy to give examples where the site was right but people online basically went "Oh well it's SPOnG, they were wrong once due to a technicality. Let's not believe them again".

Not that we (well, only speaking for myself here) care about not getting credit for the things we get right, but when people don't consider that when we potentially post a breaking story and instead focus on a balls-up that could have happened to anyone, you can see our frustration at everyone's perception of us.

But our beef isn't anything to do with you questioning our validity or not. You're perfectly right to do so.

Having said that, you could have been a bit nicer in your first ever post on this forum. As you said yourself, you didn't even hear of this site before you posted the first time, so judging by your first post can only assume the forum you heard of us from said something along the lines of "Spong are rumour-millers". If that was the case, you could say you already had a pre-judged opinion of us before you put finger to keyboard.

In direct response to the validity of the article, must we really be tied down to waiting till press releases before a piece of news is considered 'credible'? Naturally there is some form of investigation that must be carried out, but please don't confuse investigative journalism with a lack of facts. If a game was confirmed to someone well ahead of its official announcement, there's hardly likely to be any official documentation about it is there?

I know that wasn't your original contention anyway, just thought I'd nip that in the bud before someone decided to have a laugh.



Are you sure that's what we did?
Rod Todd = Commented on your hostility, not your questioning of the story.
majin dboy = Concurred.
Me = Same.
majin dboy = lol'd. Then perhaps made a vague generalisation about you -- but considering your first post was pretty much of that attitude, it's not surprising if some thought you came here to complain.
LUPOS = Started tangent which everyone else followed, which wasn't to do with your post.

I don't remember anyone saying "How dare you question our credibility, blah blah blah!" You just could have been nicer than "Oi website I've never seen before, get your f*%kin' story straight!" (the attitude you showed pretty much gave off that effect, even if they weren't exactly the words you used). There is a little thing called etiquette, you know.

'Fraid not. If I said I hadn't heard of this site, that would imply that I haven't heard of this site's name before clicking on that link, much less heard the statements beforehand that this site is a rumor mill.


True, so then the story is hardly "confirmed" then. Hell, the employee could be giving you false information just to screw with you and lower your credibility. When all is said and done. It could even be that there is no employee, since coincidentally, this employee wasn't named to protect his "identity" and this was written as a (very very cruel) early April Fool's joke. Then again, you're hardly the first to report on NiGHTS. So this is just a hypothetical thing. There is also that 360 trailer for NiGHTS 2. Don't know the story behind that trailer and don't really care to look it up at 3:49 in the morning.



Ayup.



Wrong. He complained about how I was picking apart two contradicting points from the article.


Refer to "dictate to them how their first post should've been written".



Complain about two contracting points. E.g.,

and

Quite contradictory, don't you agree?


That much I can agree with, yet he was responding to majin, who was referencing me. So by extension, it is related to my post.


Maybe not, I admit that I used a baseless point thar, lawl. +1 point for you.


Definitely not the words I used. Rofl. In hindsight could I have been a bit nicer? I suppose I could have. Then again, so could have everyone else. But did I regret it? No. Did I enjoy picking apart your argument? Definitely. =P

Touche, touche. :) I love to pick people's posts apart too. Well played. ;)

I obviously can't speak for anyone else here, but it just seemed to me like it was more the way you discussed your point, rather than the point itself, that people were contending to. I gather people like Rod Todd would not have used such an aggressive word as 'nit-picking' had the original post been a bit less... direct, shall we say? ;)

Still, you're right - everyone could be a bit nicer about everyone else and the world will be full of smiling suns, happy children, bouncing sheep and Jeff Minter.

Yeah, welcome Mit. Just thought I'd say that first. You deserve that much to start.

I'd just like to say first, to give the Spong crew a break. While you are entitled to your opinion (and yeah the Nights thing could be an April Fools but who knows for sure yet) you have to be careful how you word it.

The other thing you have to understand and bare in mind with this website, is that its' not like the mass rep and turnover sites like IGN, 1up and Gamespot in size. Even though Spong isn't as big as those sites, doesn't mean Spong doesn't get its share of scoops. Or do you really think that because those other sites are bigger, they get all the news scoops and its more credible because of their reputation and popularity?

On top of that, do you remember that last time IGN or Gamespot got something wrong, because it seems many out there easily forget these moments, but yet its justified reason for some, to hang writers of smaller sites from a noose.

Its quite simple new Spong member, everybody gets things right and wrong, no matter how great they are or who they work for, from small but great writers like our respected Spong crew, to past industry folk like ol' Trip Hawkins (and his 3DO, back in the day).

Its true, about Spong scooping the Xbox 360 name first (amongst others), as I was here to bare witness to that. Don't believe or believe, that's fine. But all I'm saying is give Spong a break, and stick around to use your account. You'll see what Spong is all about, despite any negative rumours you might have heard elsewhere.

Yeah I also post on a few other gaming/anime websites, but Spong is still my main home online.

That's all I got to say for now, hope you enjoy your stay at Spong, Mit.

Thanks. Note: I gave up the credibility argument there. Also I was just stating hypothetically that it could be an April Fool's joke on either's part, seeing as how close it is to April.

My main argument is the two contradictions in the main article. Is the game going to be a remake, or is it a brand new, completely original game? Unless I misunderstand, it was stated via the quote from the unnamed employee that this is a brand-new game, and not a remake. Then at the end, the writer stated that this was going to be a remake. I've got to say, I'm confused here. I'm just trying to figure out which the writer means for the sake of the readers. Is this a brand-new, original game, or is it a remake? Think you can clear this up?

First up - pick away; nothing like it to encourage some actual thinking - and "keeping the bastards honest" is a noble pursuit.

Secondly, to clarify.

As you say 'new game' came as a direct quote from our contact, "It's a full game too, not a rehash of old NiGHTS for Virtual Console as some have said it might be lately. It's a whole new game.”

Rehash means straight port to VC.

New game means NiGHTS remade as a new game for Wii (controllers etc).

To us, that's a remake.

But as this confusion appears to have raised quite a storm of debate, we are currently in the middle of a follow-up with quotes and more clarity based on new information that I won't talk about right now.

The evidence is mounting that it probably isn't a joke.