Transformers Director: Bays for Microsoft Blood

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SuperSaiyan4
Joined 15 Aug 2006
1274 comments
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:35
'Checks' gotta love the American spelling...
thomas logic
Anonymous
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 14:57
Bay has guts. No one, no one is able to stand up to the dark force that is Microsoft for very long. MS game has always been FUD. All in IT know it. They've held up the Internet and computing OS stability for decades. 5 versions of Windows and still vulnerable to viruses? No wonder MS engineers couldn't piece together a second xbox based on older technology or grasp the nature of the IBM CBE. Anyways, let a company ruin smaller, innovative businesses, corrupt courts and use delay tactics to drain out competitors's bank accounts and this is what you get. Microsoft, the OJ of the corporate world. RIP.
LUPOS
Joined 30 Sep 2004
1422 comments
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:05
[quote = SPOnG]bloody Pearl Harbor (yes, we will use the US spelling!).


Are we talking about Harbor? In spite of the differences in spellings of things I think if it's part of a name it should be written how the place itself writes it. Living in New York I have to say it drives me nuts to hear it referred to as "Nueve(sp?) York" by the "latino" media. If people in freaking japan can call it NEW York so can you! *grrr*

Fun fact, japan actually has a whole extra set of letters just for writing out words that aren't Japanese. However, due to there language missing a few sounds ("V" and "uh" for example) and the fact that the only consonant sound any word can ever end with is "n", they often have odd pronunciations. But I appreciate the effort.

"Nu Yoruku" for reference sake.

On a side note, who hear new that when people in China say the name of their country it sounds nothing like "China". And is it Deutschland or Germany? Where the heck did the word "Germany" even come from?!

Meh...
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hollywooda
Joined 27 Jun 2006
663 comments
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:06
What a load of old toss, isnt it Sony & the B.A that set up an additional format (Blu-ray) to counter the natural evolution of the DVD (HD-DVD)?.....
LUPOS
Joined 30 Sep 2004
1422 comments
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:17
hollywooda wrote:
What a load of old toss, isnt it Sony & the B.A that set up an additional format (Blu-ray) to counter the natural evolution of the DVD (HD-DVD)?.....


According to the head of SCEA, yes.

And while MS's role in this may well be to just f**k with things, HD-DVD itself is well meant and a good quality item. And bay is a retard if he thinks blu-ray is soem how inherently "superior". It's got more space. So far HD-DVD has way better interactivity support. Like editing together your own cut of 300. IMHO, being able to fit a 4 hour HD movie on one disc is all that matters. If I need extras they can go on a second disc. Especially since it's cheaper to manufacture 2 HD-DVD's than it is to make 1 Blu-ray. Least it used to be. maybe they have the cost down now.
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RiseFromYourGrave
Joined 17 Jul 2006
687 comments
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 16:45
maybe its just my proper english, but shouldnt it be nyu yoruku?

i know what you mean about the different names thing, seems kinda ignorant doesnt it? I imagine that in between and during stealing countries us english we went around with our imposing moustaches and saying to the locals 'you boy, you there, what do you call this place' 'munchen' 'munch.. mun-chen? oh no no that will not do, the chaps back home wont want to use clumsy savage accentuation - how about munich?' 'but..' 'spiffing'

i wouldnt use harbor though. i dont use honor either when talking about the medal of honour games. stop being ignorant of the correct spellings, its offensive, you yanks! :)
Dreadknux
Joined 14 Jul 2004
700 comments
Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:14
maybe its just my proper english, but shouldnt it be nyu yoruku?

I thought it was Nyu- Yo-ku, as 'ru' isn't likely to be used to pronounce New York. Maybe I'm wrong, though. Another example of what LUPOS is talking about are words like Channel (Chi-[ya]-na-ru - there is no 'cha' alphabet character because 'chi' is the 'i' form of the 'T' set of characters; Ta, Chi, Tsu, Te, To). But that's neither here or there.

The point is Transformers is a bit of a pants movie anyway, and Bay's slightly irrelevant.
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:32
Transformers movie was ass (They killed Jazz, again...Prime was nonplussed). Bay is an idiot whoo needs to put his tinfoil hat back on and STFU.
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Thu, 6 Dec 2007 02:19
RiseFromYourGrave wrote:
...maybe its my proper english...

i wouldnt use harbor though. i dont use honor either when talking about the medal of honour games.


Aren't you one of those people I've noticed using "of" as an auxilliary verb? As in I would of[sic] used proper English, if only I would have been taught correctly? I know I've seen more than one SPOnGer trot that out. Proper English also implies appropriate use of capitalization. Like at the beginning of sentences and proper nouns.

Anyway, considering that without some of the recipients of the Congressional Medal of Honor and their comrades in arms, you might have a much more intimate knowlegde of the uses of the umlaut...and as a veteran of the armed services of which this is the highest possible honor (and assuming you are a civilian), I strongly suggest you spell it correctly in the future. :)
SuperSaiyan4
Joined 15 Aug 2006
1274 comments
Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:26
What I dont get is Americans are really Europeans and the English language was obviously from England...Yet they managed to evolve it to their own benfit my taking out a letter here or two and changing the spelling...I smell laziness but then thats rather common amongst many of them.
tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:41
PreciousRoi wrote:
Anyway, considering that without some of the recipients of the Congressional Medal of Honor and their comrades in arms, you might have a much more intimate knowlegde of the uses of the umlaut...and as a veteran of the armed services of which this is the highest possible honor (and assuming you are a civilian), I strongly suggest you spell it correctly in the future. :)

If I were a veteran of the American armed forces, I'd be offended that a company like EA had used the name of the highest possible honour awarded to members of the American military just to market a series of computer games.

I'd certainly be much more offended about that than I would about some limey not spelling or capitalising the name of the medal in the way it should be in an Internet forum.
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:01
Not me, I've always felt that EA treated the name with dignity and an appropriate amount of gravitas...it started with just the one game, not a plot to flog an entire series, that came later...a game which, as a gamer, holds a dear place in my heart as the first console FPS worthy of the name.

I was a little miffed when Allied Assault (I think, it was a PC title) never made it to the Xbox, and we got the poor PS2 retread instead. And Rising Sun (retread sequel) had a minidocumentary about the BAR, but it never appeared in the game...which mostly sucked. But they never did anything dishonorable.

The capitalization jab was more triggered by "...proper english..." than anything, but the point stands. Beyond its meaning, its a proper noun, not subject to regional spelling quibbles. Besides, "honour" and the rest aren't really English at all, now are they? The American spellings are more English than anything.

Anyway, one of the ideals the men who earned the Congessional Medal of Honor fought for is* the right of free expression...which on the surface would appear to give him the right to spell it however he wants...however, it also confers upon me the right to tell him hes a w****r for doing so while boasting of his proper English, and living in a country which would have been overrun and conquered by an enemy they created without the valor of the men "Over There".
PreciousRoi
Joined 3 Apr 2005
1483 comments
Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:02
*expletive deleted* you, you pissant little piece of s**t.
TimSpong
Joined 6 Nov 2006
1783 comments
Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:58
SuperSaiyan4 wrote:
What I dont get is Americans are really Europeans and the English language was obviously from England...Yet they managed to evolve it to their own benfit my taking out a letter here or two and changing the spelling...I smell laziness but then thats rather common amongst many of them.


Sitting in traffic (from Arabic 'tafriq') the other day (German or possibly Proto-Indo-European) on the way (Germanic) to a hotel (from old French, 'hostel') I thought this argument (Proto-Indo-European or the old French) about English (from the German 'engle') was okay (poss USA. poss Celtic)...

English comes from all over the bloody world and always has... innit? Kushti.

As for the idea that the Americans (who, via Webster, came up with at least a good first stab at formalising the language*) simply take letters out or put them in because of... generic laziness... what a stupid thing to (badly) write.

'Honor' and 'honour' - for example - were both being used in bloody England in the 16th century. The former coming from the Latin, the latter coming from an old French 'corruption'. So, if anything, the American spelling using the former is more 'English' than the latter; the Roman invasion precursing the Norman by a thousand years.

Our 'greatest' playwright (note, not 'playwrite') couldn't even spell his own name the same way twice.

Finally, while we're on the subject of laziness and language - just nip back over your own post and see if you can spot any pieces of laziness?

Over to you Mr Pot...

Regards, Tim... AKA the Kettle.

P.S. Don't think this makes me an America fanboy... I hate everywhere.... cobber.

* Stop right there - Dr Johnson's dictionary did not try to formalise spelling - it did try to list words.



tyrion
Joined 14 Oct 1999
1786 comments
Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:26
I'm not going down the "America saved Europe" argument route again, I've had it too many times on the Internet to do it again.

What I will take a quick snipe at is the "proper" English debate.

While it's true that a lot of American English is closer to the English spoken by the British at the time of the Founding Fathers' journey, this doesn't really make it "proper" English. English is a language that from its very first attempts to be understood has evolved and changed.

The fact that a large part of American English has, if you'll excuse the term, stagnated, points out the difference in "style" between the two branches of the language. English has continued to evolve naturally, including words, dropping others and altering the meanings of others.

There is also the fact that American English was consciously changed by several individuals in the dictionary publishing trade in order to actively distance it from the mother tongue, therefore moving the language on in a different direction. The dropping of the u letters from colour and honour come from this process, by the way.

All of this means we actually have two separate, but related, languages, English as spoken in Britain and English as spoken in America.

Logically the "proper" English is the one spoken in England, just as the "proper" French is that spoken in France, not Canada. This is why I have referred to English and American English in this posting. However, due to the influence of Hollywood and American computer firms, the American English language is the one that most people think of as "English" worldwide.

Naturally, British and American people will always claim their language as the "proper" one, but it's a commonly quoted fact that there are more people learning English as a second language in China at the moment than there are people living in the USA, so we may all have to watch out for their inevitable changes to the language!

This really has gone a bit off topic, hasn't it? Umm, Blu-ray FTW, but Perl Harbor (the film) still sucks!
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