I'm 100% certain we wont be seeing PS3 in Europe before Xmas. People are now like OMG the PS3 is only 6 months away! Which doesn't seem too long, so come November Sony will announce 'sorry, it's not till March 07' and again everyone will be like 6 months!
The 360 has its share of problems, but come on it's not going too be far less powerful, 3 x 3.2GHz is fast! Yet it managed to launch here a whole year and a half earlier. Given M$ fast launch turnaround I wouldn't be surprised if Xbox 1080 is being announced in 2010, and thats just 3 years after PS3, and I bet it'll have twice the PS3 spec!
Sony need to sort it out! Stop trying to get _everything_ into one machine. Instead of paying £400 for a new machine to last me 6 or so years, I'd rather pay £200 now for something a bit less and then £200 in 3 years for something a lot more!
If this bluray delay is the only thing that has pushed the launch back, its concievable that it could delay it further, but I guess they'll do whatever it takes to make it launch before xmas.
Nice to know it'll play all the old stuff, and in hi def. Having said that though, it'll be a long time before I can afford one.
I was really shocked when I first read that article - they seemed to address things that I wanted them to for me to get interested.
And then I reread it. Maybe the quotes are out of context, but aside from the 4th dimension hogwash (the 4th dimension is clearly time, so i guess this means that games will take into account what you've done before now... wait don't they do that already?) wtf does “commerce features that includes bootable software via the hard drive" mean? Are we getting charged everytime we start up bootable software? or does the translation for the 4d/hub come out like "hexbook scythe hardbraid"?
Global launch my arse. The ps3 will be the hot ticket this holiday season, but shortages in any launch strategy will mean that mummy and daddy will buy a rev or a 360 for little timmy on xmas day. Europe is an important territory - although its taken Sony's capitulation that they'll lose two holiday seasons to the 360 before anything happened.
Show me something new, something you've developed or improved significantly enough upon to make it your own. The HUB (at this point in time) does not count. Show me that you care about Europe, to the extent you're willing to take heat about shortages in other territories for us. Give us original IPs.
Don't lie to me about other dimensions, global release dates, hardware specs, emotion engines, prerendered footage, that I need a next gen dvd player or that I will be able to play most of your exciting and interesting launch titles on the 360 or PC prior to launch.
All these "lies" are just to slow the momentum of the 360. I'm a Nintendo freak, and I envy the xbox live service (especially arcade). As Sony watch the live service in wonder, they are forced to Play catch up as new ideas and designs emerge. (Remember the PS3 conrol pad - as soon as Ninty revealed its designs, Sony realised their own controller was being laughed at. This is the real delay, waiting to copy competitors designs.
With the sucess of the DS, notice how many PSP are being given away free with certain mobile 'phones, check the Sunday papers.
I've got to go now, rant over. I wonder if the PS3 will be powered by antimatter - to control the jump into the 4th dimension with games being delivered as an intelligent gas....ho hum
Maybe the quotes are out of context, but aside from the 4th dimension hogwash (the 4th dimension is clearly time, so i guess this means that games will take into account what you've done before now... wait don't they do that already?)
Ayup - which mean that 2D games were always really 3D, and 3D games are actually 4D.
Of course, Katuragi could be trying to differentiate offline games from persistent, online game worlds, where elapsed time - whether during or away from the game - is key to the game model.
Either way, 4D gaming = nothing new.
wtf does “commerce features that includes bootable software via the hard drive" mean? Are we getting charged everytime we start up bootable software?
My take on this would be software you can purchase and download to the HDD once, and play/boot directly from the disk rather than connecting every tiome you want to play.
Maybe it's just me, or maybe it was the way Spong presented the material, but with this announcement Sony seems more excited in Blue Ray than its game system.
I realize that the Blue Ray's big push will come from the PS3, but they could have disguised it a little better by actually talking about the system, rather than the discs.
Of course, the more I read, the less interested I become. Which is the opposite of the Nintendo Rev or whatever they may end up calling it. I'm thinking I will end up getting that one before any other system, while I really was planning on a 360 before waiting a year or two before I got the Rev.
This announcement, to me, screams that Sony has little care for the games this time around, instead focusing on the BR vs HDD fight.
[quote = SPOnG]No news on software and no confirmation on pricing as of yet, both of which will hopefully be unveiled at GDC next week in Phil Harrison’s keynote speech 'PlayStation 3: Beyond the Box'.
hey stef, i thought nothing interesting was happening at gdc? ;)
This announcement, to me, screams that Sony has little care for the games this time around, instead focusing on the BR vs HDD fight.
Sony always seem more focussed on hardware, I mean, that's what they do. The lame buzz words to make their hardware sound more exciting, that's nothing new either.
It's never the hardware that makes a system great in the end really is it, just look at the PS2 launch, appalling line up, games looked worse than Dreamcast games, then it was outclassed in the gfx department by XBOX a couple of years later, but here we are, more than 6 years from it's launch, and they've sold over 100 million, there have been a lot of fab games on it (and SEGA are making games for it too). wtf!?!
As usual with Sony, it's broader success will come down to the marketing, and the brand strength. For people on this forum though, it's Namco, Konami, UbiSoft, Capcom and others, even EA, that will make us want a PS3, not Sony. Having said that, every success is doomed to fail in the end, and Microsofts day will come, sooner or later. (probably sooner)
Although personally, I'm hoping it's Nintendo who will gain from all this in the end, and repeat their recent DS success with a low priced, universally acclaimed and accessible console, that people tired of Sony and Microsoft's dick waving, will welcome in droves. Here's hoping.
60Gb harddrive, blu-ray, a 4th dimension!!! all for the asking price of what? a trillion ruppees? 2 trillion? No one is going to be able to afford this thing, I'd rather have a 360 and and Revolution for the same price I think. maybe they are saving money leaving out the "e" in blue
No one is going to be able to afford this thing, I'd rather have a 360 and and Revolution for the same price I think.
That's what everyone said about PSP. And to an extent, Sony let everyone think it. But when it came out, it was competitively priced.
Sony is not stupid. Say what you like about them, but marketing they know, and the basics of marketing state that you cannot sell a product unless the price is right.
PS3 will be priced to sell. No point releasing it if "No one is going to be able to afford" it.
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I'm 100% certain we wont be seeing PS3 in Europe before Xmas. People are now like OMG the PS3 is only 6 months away! Which doesn't seem too long, so come November Sony will announce 'sorry, it's not till March 07' and again everyone will be like 6 months!
The 360 has its share of problems, but come on it's not going too be far less powerful, 3 x 3.2GHz is fast! Yet it managed to launch here a whole year and a half earlier. Given M$ fast launch turnaround I wouldn't be surprised if Xbox 1080 is being announced in 2010, and thats just 3 years after PS3, and I bet it'll have twice the PS3 spec!
Sony need to sort it out! Stop trying to get _everything_ into one machine. Instead of paying £400 for a new machine to last me 6 or so years, I'd rather pay £200 now for something a bit less and then £200 in 3 years for something a lot more!