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Marinky_Kongshi
Joined 7 Mar 2005
18 comments
Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:09
NiktheGreek wrote:
Marinky_Kongshi wrote:

Well I wouldn't like it if someone asked why I gave my opinion on why I like certain companies. Nor would I ask about someone else's opinion.

Other people don't mind, of course. Check out my brief exchange with Adam M about the Xbox. As the original poster didn't appear to be greatly offended by my question, I'm assuming I was okay to ask.


Well you were just giving suggestions for games that time, which is a completely different comment.
Ditto
Joined 10 Jun 2004
1169 comments
Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:54
Marinky_Kongshi wrote:

Well you were just giving suggestions for games that time, which is a completely different comment.


He was implying that he wanted an explaination as to why I don't like Xbox. I have reasons for my opinions, and therefore I stated them:
- Broadly I don't got for the kind of games on XB.
- I think that Microsoft is an evil cancer and would never buy anything from them.
neurones
Joined 21 Mar 2005
7 comments
Tue, 22 Mar 2005 08:57
When Microsoft made X Crappy Box, they did not think of the innovation that had to come with a console, they did not think that It had to be a console with distinct features that will revolutionise gaming, all they thought was ,lets make a console that has better graphics than the rest[which I dont think it has].
The only title which I think has kept X Box in buisness is Halo [thats why they had to make another one].
neurones
Joined 21 Mar 2005
7 comments
Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:05
Adam M wrote:
vault 13 wrote:

1)Nintendo doesn't have anything that looks good other than the three franchises they sequel each year and even some of them you can argue their five star status (Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventures, etc.)


Resident Evil 0, 4 et al. But these games are excellent.

Also if you want any sort of decent FPS on a console, you have to go X-Box. Also for your GOOD Sega games (JSRF and Panzer Dragoon Orta to name two). Same with Tecmo (DOAXBV and Ninja Gaiden, DOA is a piece of crap series). But that aside...


Good job I can't stand FPS (except Metroid Prime - and that's because it has a good control system, not because it's Nintendo).

2)This point goes back to point one about Nintendo not having alot of good games if any at all that come out whereas Playstation has hundreds each year with at least 15-20 five star games arguably.


Ummm. I don't understand. There are always quality games around on Gamecube.

And what about your substantial amount of money theory.
Nintendo = $100
Playstation 2 = $150
A new non Sony game for PS2 or Gamecube = $50

So say you buy your two good Nintendo games this year, I'm giving you one less because I assume like all Nintendo fans that they hold their Nintendo games to higher level than most gamers (i.e. we won't take s**t like Starfox Assault).


I'm a Nintendo fan. That's because they create good games. I'm not a fanboy, though. I'll bash Nintendo just as much as Sony and Microsoft at times.

So your spending only a hundred dollars a year on games. You can't shell out $150 for the obviously too rich for your blood ultra gaming system that is PS2? And...


If I shell out money for a PS2, I then have to still buy the Gamecube games and the new PS2 titles. I just can't afford that.

I'll buy the best console of each generation. In this case, it's Gamecube. Last generation it was the Playstation.

I'm not tying myself to Nintendo. There are just more games on the Nintendo systems at the moment that appeal to me.

3)Gimmie something unique about DS that doesn't involve Warioware.


I can think of loads of things. That's because I'm a creative individual.

It being the only exception, the PSP looks better, has a better lineup coming, has lots of rabid fans, and an expected new silly movie format. (Can't we just memory stick our movies instead of paying $20 for UMD porn?)


Opinion.

Just because you have a bagillion ways to play the damn thing doesn't mean all their games will be winners.


Yes. Read previous posts by me. You'll find I think the current DS line-up is s**t. But I think the potential is much better than that of the PSP.

I just think Sony's gonna win in this market.


And when did I say I didn't believe that?

FPSes and heavy 3D intensive games just won't really fly on a DS.


I know.

If I want to play pixelated sidescrollers, I'll take a GBA. I don't see the DS as a huge advancement in technology. I give them much credit for going with the two screens and the blower/mic deal but graphics win out at the end of the day my friend.


Yes. I know. I know. And I agree. However, I can see huge potential of the DS to create new ways of playing games - just no-one's created any yet.



Get out of it

Game play and playability wins at the end you muppet
and the nintendo has creted a new way to making gaming more fun end of story.

and PSP hasn't
kid_77
Joined 29 Nov 2004
875 comments
Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:05
neurones wrote:
When Microsoft made X Crappy Box, they did not think of the innovation that had to come with a console, they did not think that It had to be a console with distinct features that will revolutionise gaming, all they thought was ,lets make a console that has better graphics than the rest[which I dont think it has].
The only title which I think has kept X Box in buisness is Halo [thats why they had to make another one].


Hard-Drive? The best console online-gaming service with Xbox Live?
kid_77
Joined 29 Nov 2004
875 comments
Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:44
neurones wrote:
Get out of it

Game play and playability wins at the end you muppet


I don't think anyone on this forum would disagree.

neurones wrote:
and the nintendo has creted a new way to making gaming more fun end of story.


The stylus opens up something new in the domain of dedicated handheld consoles, but they've been available for PDAs for some time.

neurones wrote:
and PSP hasn't


Well it doesn't have a stylus, I suppose.

Your point that Nintendo should get all the kudos, for releasing a device with a feature not previously used on dedicated portable consoles, would be without substance if no decent games were available. I'm not saying this is the case with DS, but a device can have all the innovation in the world, but if the games that make use of these features stink, it's a redundant argument.

The PSP v DS "battle" will perpetuate for some time, but for me the main difference between them is in the games: The DS library seems to have retained a traditional, more bite-size style. Whereas the PSP line-up looks to take a more "PS2-lite" (sic) type of approach.

I can't see a right or wrong, but surely it's a good thing the consumer now has valid alternative to Ninty fluff?
NiktheGreek
Joined 20 Apr 2004
316 comments
Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:04
neurones wrote:
When Microsoft made X Crappy Box, they did not think of the innovation that had to come with a console, they did not think that It had to be a console with distinct features that will revolutionise gaming, all they thought was ,lets make a console that has better graphics than the rest[which I dont think it has].
The only title which I think has kept X Box in buisness is Halo [thats why they had to make another one].

Okay, so the Xbox doesn't have any truly innovative features over the other consoles. I can accept that, because I've got one and I don't play it differently to my other systems. However, I must ask how that's any different to the other consoles of it's generation. The Playstation 2, Xbox and Gamecube haven't changed the way I play. I've got those too, and they don't play vastly differently to my Playstation, Saturn and Nintendo 64.

As for Halo being the only game that has fuelled the Xbox, that's ludicrous (though in the early stages of it's life I'd have been inclined to agree). Xbox software sales outperform sales for it's nearest rival format (the Gamecube) week in, week out. Halo 2 isn't even in the Xbox top ten anymore.

Besides, it's a closed-minded argument. If I were to say Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker was the only reason that the Gamecube was still popular, or likewise Metal Gear Solid 2 for the PS2, and that's why they're making/have made sequels, I'd be a fool.
Ditto
Joined 10 Jun 2004
1169 comments
Tue, 22 Mar 2005 22:37
neurones wrote:

Get out of it

Game play and playability wins at the end you muppet
and the nintendo has creted a new way to making gaming more fun end of story.

and PSP hasn't


It depends how you define "win". In a corporate sense, the more profitable games are those that give the audience what they want: graphics.

Besides, graphics are the first thing we look at and the first thing we base our purchasing decisions from. We assosiate good graphics with a good game.
vault 13
Joined 22 Oct 2004
538 comments
Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:23
Adam M wrote:
I think that Microsoft is an evil cancer and would never buy anything from them.


Tell me you didn't use a machine with Windows on it to write that post and I won't laugh. Just because your not paying for anything Microsoft doesn't make you any better of a person. X-Box finally has good games on it worth buying the system for. Sadly, yes it's true. I bought one after all my system bashing and it's awesome. Best graphis, best online experience, and Halo 2. Don't go being a stubborn X-Box hater just because you think Bill G. has a little too much money. Envy never got anyone anywhere.
Ditto
Joined 10 Jun 2004
1169 comments
Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:37
vault 13 wrote:

Tell me you didn't use a machine with Windows on it to write that post and I won't laugh.


I did use a Windows machine. Windows 2000 was the last MS product I purchased. I have no problem with Microsoft and the PC market, just with it and other markets.

go being a stubborn X-Box hater just because you think Bill G. has a little too much money. Envy never got anyone anywhere.


I just think it is wrong that a monopolistic company wants to diversify into new markets and monopolise them.

I will never purchase a Microsoft product again. Their non-innovative ethos is all wrong.

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