"Hi-Def: The Mistake That Nintendo Avoided"

http://nintendo.about.com/library/bluray/blbluraypen2.htm

This is an article discussing the merits of pushing hi-def on the public. They note that the percentage of HDTVs in households accross the U.S. by 2010 varies in reports from 55% to 82%, which is a huge variance and ask whether HD content can be justified to the public.

Personally I'm all for more hd content now, although I have no hdtv. I do think that by not having HD content Nintendo has skillfully manouvered itself into the cheap and cheerful option, which given the extra development time and cost HD content requires should mean cheaper games.

I know its not what your saying but it always anoys the s**t of of me when i hear developers going on about how artists have to spend soooo much more time making these detailed 3d models for new next gen high def games.... BS! anyone who has ever done any sort of 3D animating knows that more polys... more memory... better graphics card= happier animator. it is way easier to make a million polygons look liek a person than it is to make 10,000. trying to get things to bend and move properly on an 8 poly arm is a supreme pain in the ass. any dev that says next gen graphics cost more to make is lying to there publishers... period! now A.I., physics, cant say myself... although i assume its easier to get decent stuff running on a high end system.. but its not my area of expertese.

anywho, just felt like being opinionated.

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thats a good article. it all sounds right to me, ill be waiting till the end of this decade before i worry about going HD. my consoles look fine on my tv as is, and i guess i get my fill of hi-def gaming on my pc.

and also, having played games at 1080 dpi on my pc and others, i can say yeah it looks great but its not worth buying the ps3 and a hdtv for 2 thousand pounds just for it.

the ps3 is holding HD aloft to entice people, and its not big spuds like they think it is.

I disagree. For too long gaming has been a mess of indistinguishable pixels. Hi-Def makes it better - it's a simple fact.

But the Hi-Def gaming is a trojan - part of a bigger campaign to get HD technology into our living rooms so that companies can enforce DRM onto us.

I've been HD for a while now, and I wouldn't go back - but because I have an early HD capable system, based on a projector, and DVi (it is HD capable, but wouldn't class as HD-Ready by today's bullshit marketing speak standards), I'm not trapped into the DRM thing, and I won't hurry to get sucked in.

I have to agree here, Burnout on 360 is so much better because of the resolution. You can see cars coming instead of wondering if it's a set of headlights, a lighting effect or just part of the background.

of course youre right that it is better, as you say it is simple fact. it looks better. but i must be adamant in saying ive only ever had real problems making distant objects out when it was important at handheld resolutions.

*this may be down to the fact i play most fps, with their longrange gunfights in hi-def on my pc.*

my experience, along with the price of going hd just makes ps3's bluray redundant at this stage to me

the revolutions resolution of 800 x 600 (?i think?) will suffice just fine for me.

<edit> just called the wii the revolution again. it may happen more, sorry. </edit>

It's perfectly understandable and acceptable.

if i do have to upgrade, im sure i will be spending a lot less than someone trying to take advantage of the bluray.

dont get me wrong here, i will get a ps3 at some point when the initial price has come down (and maybe a modchip has been released, if the games cost 50+ quid :D).

i dont think sony will even lose the war, its sony for christs sake, if they mess up they sell the mistake right back to you for double the price, the general public with their sony marketing division mind-chips squabbling around the corporate table lapping up the off-cuts sony decides are fit for them

Ok, we get it already! You don't like Sony.

The PS1 over shadowed the N64 and the PS2 killed the Dreamcast. They both opened the market to "the masses" and your hobby isn't exclusive any more.

Stop living in the past and get on with it.

not until you find us another sub/counter culture to dwell in.

Independant film is a big buisnes now. Punk rock is sold at hot topic and the biggest sellign video games have "gansta" in "pimped out rides"... Aside from going to H.O.P.E. 06' (this weekend!) I'm running real low on groups to be rebelious with.

Reminds me of a bit of Henry Rollins spoken word complaining about how mine will be the only generation in history whose kids grow up listening to pussyer music than the last instead of the other way aroudn like it aught be.

gota find that quote....

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yeah, i dislike sony, sometimes intensely. yeah i can do with out the dribbling masses as company, as the industry sates them with sub par games for the most part. though maybe they are a necessary evil.

but as brilliant as what has gone before is, i dont nor need to live in the past. as long as i spend my money wisely, the future is still rosey for me and my gaming desires. and that future has little to do with sony as it stands.

"better graphics card= happier animator"
Wrong, it should read: Better graphics card= happier lazy animator. Now they have even more polygons to screw up with!

A good comparison is the 10 000 polygon model of the Master Chief that's just butt-ugly and is seen by the artisitc world as a "waste of thousands of polygons" to the FFXI models of only 500 poly's who look better then the Master Chief model.

Good animators put love in every polygon they put into a model and so need less for the effect they wanted to deliver.

You could always become a chav...

you are indeed correct... a truly talented person can do amazing things with whatever tools are given to them... but that doesnt change the fact tha a talented animator would still be happier with more polys to lovingly place.

i still think it stands that more powerfull systems... atleast as far as art is concerned... shouldn't cost more to develop games for. Not to mention that 3d software is continually becomming more and more user friendly as time goes by.



after doing soem research into your lovely cloquialism(sp?) i have decided against chaving it up... thank you www.chavscum.com .... thank you

Well I think that Nintendo not running with the HD band wagon won't hurt them as much as many think.

The mainstream gamer gives less of a toss about such issues and more about good games to play and films to watch.

PC games having HD doesn't guarantee success and neither wiil it for PS3. It doesn't matter if we cam see every bit of sweat on a characters face better, if a game or film is s**t, word of mouth will say so and it won't sell.

Don't forget for a second that PS2 sold itself on this kind of graphic principal before (though not HD, just PS1 to PS2 but still plenty of crap games were still on it) and all the sucker gamers fell for it (except smarter folk like myself).

Like many I'll be waiting for the hype of Sony to deliver. PSP and PS2 will do me for now. Til my Wii turns up mind.