How Mario Was Used as Sweetener to Ensure Pro Evo DS and DDR
Interesting tale of Konami and Nintendo’s recent snuggling.
SPOnG was interested to learn last week partial details of an agreement for support between Konami and Nintendo in which some of the biggest franchises in world of gaming were involved.
We can confirm that a version of Pro Evolution Soccer for Nintendo DS is already underway at Konami, alongside a version for Nintendo’s Revolution. Both games will be fully online and feature some platform-specific tricks, the details of which were not disclosed.
Interestingly, Nintendo had to agree to the development of Dance Dance Revolution with Mario, the GameCube spin-off of the classic arcade bop-em-up, as part of the agreement to secure the top-tier football franchise.
Curiously enough, SPOnG was made aware during talks last week that the Mario Dancing spin off doesn’t really feature too highly on anyone’s priority list right now. As one insider put it, “Do you really think there’s any viability in launching a game that requires a bespoke peripheral at the very end of its lifecycle?”
For the record, SPOnG believes that Dance Dance Revolution with Mario will be released in early 2006, if at all. Perhaps its saving grace is the fact that the Revolution will be backwards compatible with the current GameCube, thus extending the life of all software and peripherals.
We can confirm that a version of Pro Evolution Soccer for Nintendo DS is already underway at Konami, alongside a version for Nintendo’s Revolution. Both games will be fully online and feature some platform-specific tricks, the details of which were not disclosed.
Interestingly, Nintendo had to agree to the development of Dance Dance Revolution with Mario, the GameCube spin-off of the classic arcade bop-em-up, as part of the agreement to secure the top-tier football franchise.
Curiously enough, SPOnG was made aware during talks last week that the Mario Dancing spin off doesn’t really feature too highly on anyone’s priority list right now. As one insider put it, “Do you really think there’s any viability in launching a game that requires a bespoke peripheral at the very end of its lifecycle?”
For the record, SPOnG believes that Dance Dance Revolution with Mario will be released in early 2006, if at all. Perhaps its saving grace is the fact that the Revolution will be backwards compatible with the current GameCube, thus extending the life of all software and peripherals.
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tyrion 16 Mar 2005 13:13
1/12
Is it just me, or do others think it shoule be called Dance Dance Revolution Revolution?
Crocomire 16 Mar 2005 14:15
2/12
Oh thank God for that. I have beenin need for a decent footie game for a Nintendo console for years now. I already new of the DS game being developed - it was up at Nintendo's American DS site. But news of a Revolution Pro Evo is fantastic. And both fully online too! Fantastic.
Anyone think it's possible to play other players who have the game on PS3/Xbox2?
And wait a sec, did Konami ask Nintendo to create a DDR with Mario game? Or Nintendo ask Konami? If it's the former then that seems a little weird. If it's the latter then I would understand that.
Anyone think it's possible to play other players who have the game on PS3/Xbox2?
And wait a sec, did Konami ask Nintendo to create a DDR with Mario game? Or Nintendo ask Konami? If it's the former then that seems a little weird. If it's the latter then I would understand that.
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shearDS 16 Mar 2005 16:50
3/12
i think nintendo must have approched konami with the idea first, hoping to guarantee a pes release for both the revolution and ds
Joji 16 Mar 2005 17:59
4/12
Crocomire wrote:
Oh thank God for that. I have beenin need for a decent footie game for a Nintendo console for years now. I already new of the DS game being developed - it was up at Nintendo's American DS site. But news of a Revolution Pro Evo is fantastic. And both fully online too! Fantastic.
Anyone think it's possible to play other players who have the game on PS3/Xbox2?
And wait a sec, did Konami ask Nintendo to create a DDR with Mario game? Or Nintendo ask Konami? If it's the former then that seems a little weird. If it's the latter then I would understand that.
Anyone think it's possible to play other players who have the game on PS3/Xbox2?
And wait a sec, did Konami ask Nintendo to create a DDR with Mario game? Or Nintendo ask Konami? If it's the former then that seems a little weird. If it's the latter then I would understand that.
I think once all fomats are online the next step would be some sort of even ground where all players can compete regardless of format they are using.
I totally agree that Konami working with Nintendo is a positive thing since many of their better games series ended up on PS2 and even Xbox got DDR and Silent Hill while GC didn't. Lets hope things get chummy enough like the are at the moment between Nintendo and Namco. Konami seem to be supporting DS well already and putting Pro Evo on GC is long overdue, back on the Nintendo format that made Konami all that money with ISS when the masses were buying the inferior Fifa series. Justice is due so that's good. Suppose you could say Konami are the first to get chummy with Nintendo after giving us GC Twin Snakes and not an original MGS game and not really supporting GC.
Now all I want next is a DS version on Snatchers, that would really rock. Come on Konami, you know it makes sense.
Pandaman 16 Mar 2005 22:21
5/12
You know, I was actually looking foward to this DDR game, becaue I'm tired of playing DDR only at my friends house. Plus, I really don't like the X-Box version of the game.
claudioalex 16 Mar 2005 22:32
6/12
Wining Eleven on DS? and ON-LINE?
Awsome
WE In Revolution is a PLUS for Nintendo.
Now Nintendo need a Gran Turismo( a simulation car game), a Metal Gear, a Shooting game(exclusive), a Fighting game(exclusive), more than one plataform game per year (like Ratchet and Jack)
Yuo know what,?I think I get the idea of the revolution here, heheheh, i hope it is what i am thinking, hehehehe
Awsome
WE In Revolution is a PLUS for Nintendo.
Now Nintendo need a Gran Turismo( a simulation car game), a Metal Gear, a Shooting game(exclusive), a Fighting game(exclusive), more than one plataform game per year (like Ratchet and Jack)
Yuo know what,?I think I get the idea of the revolution here, heheheh, i hope it is what i am thinking, hehehehe
Crocomire 16 Mar 2005 22:43
7/12
You know what,?I think I get the idea of the revolution here, heheheh, i hope it is what i am thinking, hehehehe
What, the best 3rd party support Nintendo has ever had in recent years?
shearDS 17 Mar 2005 09:46
8/12
claudioalex wrote:
Now Nintendo need a Gran Turismo( a simulation car game), a Metal Gear, a Shooting game(exclusive), a Fighting game(exclusive), more than one plataform game per year (like Ratchet and Jack)
shooting games:
geist is coming for shooting games, advance wars GC looks like a good strategy/shooting game and killer 7 is also on the way so they are coming. Metroid prime, re4 and star fox are already here so i think shooting games are sorted. But having a max payne, metal gear and gta on the next console would be a massive boost.
platform games:
Nobody has hugh amount of platform games and has mario is the best platform game out there they don't need anymore but a rachet and clank type game on nintendo console would be good.
racing titles:
racers bloody awful on nintendo consoles both microsoft and sony have good exclusive simulation racer's like PGR and GT while nintendo don't have any at all of that calibre!
fightinng:
fighting games are awful as well nintendo do have smash brother's which is a very good game but they need fighting games like dead or alive and tekken, not kiddy type ones.
obviously things can only get better for nintendo when it comes to 3rd party support and the gaps highlighted are not impossible to fill.
It was only a year ago or so when everyone was complaining about the lack of rpg games on the GC and within that time TOS, Baten Kaitos, paper mario, and FF:CC have been released. And we still are waiting on the new pokemon, fire emblem, legend of zelda and golden sun
claudioalex 17 Mar 2005 12:57
9/12
No, thats not my idea , but that huge suport for Next revolution helps them a lot.
When i Sayd Shooting games I was talking about games like the awfull ones in the First world war, like Brothers in arms, which are good to attract people who doesnt play Ninty kidy games.
Metroid is a very good one, but, there are people who like pure shooting games like Halo 2, or the PC shootings like Doom,
Like you sayd, Nintendo need exclusive fight and car games, and a KIND OF Metal Gear/Splinter Cell game exclusive, besides of having this ones if not exclusive, at least share a multi plataform launch.
Nintendo may will release a game like GTA , but not with the violence gamplay it has.
Microsoft need to release a lot of games with their next console cause impressing with new graphics may not be enough.
When i Sayd Shooting games I was talking about games like the awfull ones in the First world war, like Brothers in arms, which are good to attract people who doesnt play Ninty kidy games.
Metroid is a very good one, but, there are people who like pure shooting games like Halo 2, or the PC shootings like Doom,
Like you sayd, Nintendo need exclusive fight and car games, and a KIND OF Metal Gear/Splinter Cell game exclusive, besides of having this ones if not exclusive, at least share a multi plataform launch.
Nintendo may will release a game like GTA , but not with the violence gamplay it has.
Microsoft need to release a lot of games with their next console cause impressing with new graphics may not be enough.
Mendez 17 Mar 2005 13:01
10/12
shearDS wrote:
racing titles:
racers bloody awful on nintendo consoles both microsoft and sony have good exclusive simulation racer's like PGR and GT while nintendo don't have any at all of that calibre!
Whaa? PGR? Exclusive? That's a shakey claim!
Gotham is just a glorified (i.e. the cars are shiny, the graphics a bit better) version of MSR for the Dreamcast. DC being dead is the one factor that slightly validates your "exlcusive" call.
fluffstardx 17 Mar 2005 20:00
11/12
claudioalex wrote:
Now Nintendo need a Gran Turismo( a simulation car game), a Metal Gear, a Shooting game(exclusive), a Fighting game(exclusive), more than one plataform game per year (like Ratchet and Jack)
Erm...
1. Simulation racing games are better on PC. Playing any GT beyond 2 is also pointless. GT has become the new FIFA, but with a longer product cycle.
2. It has a Metal Gear: Twin Snakes, the first one. Remade to be better, as well.
3. Shooting game? Eh? The Resident Evil and Metroid series are not enough?
4. They need Fighters Destiny GC, that's what they need.
5. There is no decent platform game after Mario 64.
What Nintendo need is for people to stop expecting them to kowtow to Sony's target audience. Ninty favours imagination and trading, with games such as Pokémon, Animal Crossing, Donkey Kong Jungle Beat and Pikmin to back it up. The nearest thing Sony Have is Katamari Damacy...
claudioalex 17 Mar 2005 21:03
12/12
Im agree with you fluff, Nintendo has it s own Niche, but it would help a little to aproach to other kind of games but giving them the Nintendo Style
Ok, may be a GT with a Nintendo touch, and a New Snake game with a Nintendo touch, and it doesnt mean like you can play with Mario, I mean ideas like Geist,
Ok, may be a GT with a Nintendo touch, and a New Snake game with a Nintendo touch, and it doesnt mean like you can play with Mario, I mean ideas like Geist,