Nintendo Europe Rallies – Gosen Hits Campaign Trail

And they’re off! Guns blaze in first shots of next-gen war.

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GTA comes under fire from Gosen
GTA comes under fire from Gosen
Nintendo Europe managing director David Gosen, often harshly criticised for behaving like a something of human press release, has made what are without doubt his most outspoken comments to date. Coincidentally solidifying bold strategic claims emanating from the conference table of company President Satoru Iwata overnight in Japan, Nintendo’s all-regions briefing was further executed.

Speaking to assembled guests at the ELSPA Games Summit in London, Gosen claimed that Microsoft is eager to offload the current Xbox, accusing the firm of forcing the next-generation as part of a “self-fulfilling prophecy” without considering if there is actually any need to, from the viewpoint of the gamer or the industry in general.

Gosen also stated that the first console to hit retail doesn’t guarantee success, citing 3DO as an example. Which raises two very important points. The 3DO is something of an anomalous example. Also, is this the first sign of Nintendo finally backing out of the launch race, a move long rumoured?

Gosen went on to take some long-overdue pops at the games media, pinpointing complacent magazine editors in particular. “For every game magazine editor bored with current products, there are hundreds of thousands of gamers across the world just discovering them - today's gamers are still hungry for today's games," he said. He went on to question predicted high-pricing of future competitors’ hardware. "As hard as it may be for those editors to believe, not everyone outside their circle is prepared to pay a high price for a new console,” accused the European MD.

But Gosen had more justice to administer, focusing his attention on Rockstar’s Grand Theft Auto. In an impressive two hit combo, Gosen said, “Grand Theft Auto, ultimately, is a dead end street, and as a businessperson, I don't relish the role of defending our business from charges of gratuitous violence.”

Gosen’s final target was the entire retail sector. He made the strong point that bundling games is not necessarily a good thing and that swamping the consumer with low-end freebie software is strangling high-end releases – bad for the gamer and the industry. “If we give consumers ten games in a bundle, of which eight are sure to disappoint, what have we actually achieved?" he asked. "A disaffected consumer.”

So, the competition, the media and the retail sector all sorted out in a single speech. David Gosen - multi-tasker of the year.
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cubedman990 10 Jun 2004 10:28
1/10
well sounds like a good fight hes putting up!

>Also, is this the first sign of Nintendo finally >backing out of the launch race, a move long >rumoured?

wow u SPOnG guys are biased. there is no 'hope' of nintendo dropping out! cant u see that?

nintendo is going to dominate again, dont worry...in handheld and consoles..
Mattyd242 10 Jun 2004 10:47
2/10
I think Gosen is absolutely right - Microsoft has had to rely on hardware to break into the market, but if anything the Xbox proves that superior hardware doesn't necessarily mean superior sales.
Nintendo's attitude is very much in line with my own: that, because games technology is peaking, hardware is becoming an increasingly unimportant factor. Concentrating on advancing technology removes us further and further from the whole point of games, which is to have fun playing them. If the rumour that they won't release a new console is true, I for one will support that decision.
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Smelly 10 Jun 2004 12:33
3/10
erm, ninty wont drop out of making consoles, as it makes no financial sense to.

simple math : Console manufacturers LOSE money on the consoles, and MAKE their money from the games.

Gamecube has the highest software sold to consoles owned ratio than either xbox or ps2.

Which is why ninty keeps posting profits, and xbox keeps posting losses.

If a console manufacturer sold billions of consoles and "won" the "console war" (as the geeks like to call it). But everyone who bought one didnt buy any games and only played the games bundled with the machine... Then they'd go tits up pretty damned quickly.

Seee??? Does this make sense to you people?? Nintendo make too much money out of consoles to back out...

Anyone who cant see that, needs to do remedial business finance.
Brown Force 10 Jun 2004 14:09
4/10
Well I agree with most points. Though comparing the Xbox with the 3DO isnt exactly right. The Xbox hasn't been a incredible sucess but its doing well. You can't really exspect it to get to number one in one generation specially with the strangle hold Sony have on the market.

I think next generation Sony are really going to start to struggle IMO. Xbox 2 is looking great so far and with XNA its going to attract a hell of alot of developers and along with the fanbase and franchises its gained this generation its my favourite for coming out on top as software is going to be the focus next gen and Microsoft are strong in that department.

Then again I'm very intrigued with what Nintendo have to offer. I really hope they do something complete different just like the DS. If they can pull of something completly unique and get it to catch on, Sony and Microsoft just won't be able to compete unless they copy and make add on periferals very early on. Meaning its good news for Nintendo.

For PS3 though all thats been raved on about is this 'Cell Chip' which sounds impressive and sure will make awesome graphics or what have you...but just having the best graphics isn't good enough now which most people have pointed out already. That and a built in eye toy which will only attract a limited amount of people, too be its just a gimmick and by then the novelty will probably have worn off. Ether way other than the mass of PS2 fanboys hyping PS3 compared to the other consoles...it doesn't look as interesting to me at the moment.
Joji 10 Jun 2004 18:28
5/10
I think Sony have been singing songs for too long.
When PS2 was announced they were bragging about the "emotion engine" chip. With PS3 they are again bragging about the "cell chip" . Are the turning into a bloody hip shop now? All chips and no fishy games to go with it. None of them lived up to the hype.

This says to me the are worried. You can say whatever lofty stuff you want about it's chip, but we all know it's gonna do draw dropping graphics anyway, so why really both telling us this? Because that's all they have to sell really. The fact that Nintendo can hold a press conference with playable DS games, while PSP's appears in videos, and tries to win custom, by cosmetics says volume. It says that Sony can't talk about games they don't make, because 3rd parties do it for them. Nintendo can speak about their games, hardware and 3rd party stuff.

I love a good fight, but watching one is way better, and boy is this gonna be one fight.
Pandaman 10 Jun 2004 23:14
6/10
So basically we're going to have one company pushing the envelope in graphics, another company trying to make itself into your living room, and another doing something completley off the wall.

Well, I certainly don't think people bought the SNES for the FX Chip.
TigerUppercut 11 Jun 2004 10:25
7/10
Smelly wrote:

>erm, ninty wont drop out of making consoles, as
>it makes no financial sense to.
>
>simple math : Console manufacturers LOSE money on
>the consoles, and MAKE their money from the
>games.
>
>Gamecube has the highest software sold to
>consoles owned ratio than either xbox or ps2.
>
>Which is why ninty keeps posting profits, and
>xbox keeps posting losses.
>
>If a console manufacturer sold billions of
>consoles and "won" the "console war" (as the
>geeks like to call it). But everyone who bought
>one didnt buy any games and only played the games
>bundled with the machine... Then they'd go tits
>up pretty damned quickly.
>
>Seee??? Does this make sense to you people??
>Nintendo make too much money out of consoles to
>back out...
>
>Anyone who cant see that, needs to do remedial
>business finance.

It would seem that Smelly just makes everything up...
auzdafluff 11 Jun 2004 11:23
8/10
Smelly wrote:

>Gamecube has the highest software sold to
>consoles owned ratio than either xbox or ps2.

>Which is why ninty keeps posting profits, and
>xbox keeps posting losses.

You need to get your facts straight...

Gamecube actually has the lowest attachment rate of any console this generation according to NPD funworld and Chart-Track, with an average attachment rate of 3.2 games per console. The Playstation 2 is second with 6.5 games per console and the Xbox is slightly in front with 7.2 games per console. Now that might be because the xbox has a slightly more 'hardcore' demographic who are more inclined to buy more games, but it doesn't change the fact that Nintendo have the lowest attachment rate.

That is the sole reason why so many publishers have dropped their support for the console when the Xbox and GC are neck and neck in hardware shifted. Most cube owners only buy exclusives for their GC, the majority of multiformat games are bought on the PS2 or Xbox.

And as for the whole Microsoft keeps posting losses point... true, but only because MS loose $150 per Xbox sold. Where as industry experts predict Nintendo make $20 per GC sold. So if you take away profit gleaned from games you see that fact is invaild for the point you are trying to argue. So if you want a valid fact for that point, the higher the loss Microsoft incuur, the more consoles they have sold.
Mattyd242 11 Jun 2004 12:11
9/10
The question isn't about Nintendo dropping out of hardware completely like Sega, it's more to do with them shifting emphasis away from the traditional life cycle of consoles.
The Famicom has only just ceased production in Japan, and the PSOne is still shifting games and consoles around the world. The differences in technology are now made almost completely moot by the amount of multi-format releases - few games are platform-exclusive these days, and most games are created to be portable to all major formats.

So, why bother investing more money into loss-making hardware when you can make a larger return on your current hardware by giving it a longer life and *selling more games for it?*
animegt 11 Jun 2004 22:30
10/10
cubedman990 wrote:

>well sounds like a good fight hes putting up!
>
>>Also, is this the first sign of Nintendo finally
>>backing out of the launch race, a move long
>>rumoured?
>
>wow u SPOnG guys are biased. there is no 'hope'
>of nintendo dropping out! cant u see that?
>
>nintendo is going to dominate again, dont
>worry...in handheld and consoles..

OOOOOHHHH YEAHH !!!!!

Nintendo all the way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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