Microsoft has confirmed a November 4th launch date for the newly renamed Natal: Kinect. It will launch on November 4th in the USA with 15 games.
The event in LA that confirmed this date also showed a version of Forza running under the Kinect system. This was demo'd also showed the ability to use the Kinetc system to walk around a vehicle - in this case a Ferrari. It has to be said that this has more than a little appeal to hardcore gamers.