Nintendo has offered to clean Japanese gamers' Wiis for free if they've been having trouble with Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
In a statement, Nintendo has said that it has recieved numerous complaints from Japanese gamers who bought Smash Bros, only to find that their Wii would not play the disc or that video playback from the game was choppy. The gamers, apparently, had no such problems with other games. The reason for this, according to Nintendo, is the fact that the game is on a dual layer DVD and because of this, more sensitive to dusty laser lenses.
The solution is to clean the lens. Simple enough, right? Apparently not. Nintendo is offering to clean all affected Wiis for free if they're sent in to its Kyoto service centre along with a warranty card and copy of the game. It's all very nice of them, but the solution will leave gamers without their console.
SPOnG also has to wonder when the problem will next strike. Presumably Smash Bros won't be the last game to be released on a dual layer disc. Will Nintendo eventually have to provide a free cleaning service to all gamers who buy a game on such a disc? Furthermore, what happens when the cleaned lenses pick up fresh dirt? SPOnG suspects that, sooner or later, Nintendo will have to put a little faith in gamers to clean their own lenses...
You can read more about Smash Bros on SPOnG's dedicated game page.
Source: IGN
In a statement, Nintendo has said that it has recieved numerous complaints from Japanese gamers who bought Smash Bros, only to find that their Wii would not play the disc or that video playback from the game was choppy. The gamers, apparently, had no such problems with other games. The reason for this, according to Nintendo, is the fact that the game is on a dual layer DVD and because of this, more sensitive to dusty laser lenses.
The solution is to clean the lens. Simple enough, right? Apparently not. Nintendo is offering to clean all affected Wiis for free if they're sent in to its Kyoto service centre along with a warranty card and copy of the game. It's all very nice of them, but the solution will leave gamers without their console.
SPOnG also has to wonder when the problem will next strike. Presumably Smash Bros won't be the last game to be released on a dual layer disc. Will Nintendo eventually have to provide a free cleaning service to all gamers who buy a game on such a disc? Furthermore, what happens when the cleaned lenses pick up fresh dirt? SPOnG suspects that, sooner or later, Nintendo will have to put a little faith in gamers to clean their own lenses...
You can read more about Smash Bros on SPOnG's dedicated game page.
Source: IGN
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irritant 4 Feb 2008 12:47
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To fix this story, alter this line:
"Nintendo has offered to clean Japanese gamers' Wiis for free if they've been having trouble with Super Smash Bros. Brawl."
To:
"Nintendo has offered to replace faulty parts in Japanese gamers' Wiis for free if they've been having trouble with Super Smash Bros. Brawl. without actually admitting there is a hardware design fault."
Job done.
Nintendo seems to have got away with improving/fixing their hardware problems post release without too much negative press.
"Nintendo has offered to clean Japanese gamers' Wiis for free if they've been having trouble with Super Smash Bros. Brawl."
To:
"Nintendo has offered to replace faulty parts in Japanese gamers' Wiis for free if they've been having trouble with Super Smash Bros. Brawl. without actually admitting there is a hardware design fault."
Job done.
Nintendo seems to have got away with improving/fixing their hardware problems post release without too much negative press.
JPV711 4 Feb 2008 13:13
2/12
So what? Who wants Red Ring of Death publicity.
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SuperSaiyan4 4 Feb 2008 13:37
3/12
Hang on did I read this right? The game is on a DUAL LAYER DVD???
deleted 4 Feb 2008 15:26
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SuperSaiyan4 wrote:
Hang on did I read this right? The game is on a DUAL LAYER DVD???
Yes, Yes you did?
SuperSaiyan4 4 Feb 2008 15:41
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Then that must be really poor compression then...Dual Layer DVD games for the Xbox 360 are leagues ahead of Wii games so am really surprised at the Wii using dual layer dvd's. All this time I thought they used CD Roms for their games hahaha considering the poor quality in visuals.
deleted 4 Feb 2008 15:58
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SuperSaiyan4 wrote:
Then that must be really poor compression then...Dual Layer DVD games for the Xbox 360 are leagues ahead of Wii games so am really surprised at the Wii using dual layer dvd's. All this time I thought they used CD Roms for their games hahaha considering the poor quality in visuals.
No they have always used, DVD, and they dont really need compression like 360 does as no HD is involved, although im sure some compression is in there somwhere but the use of DualLayer is most likely down to the amount of content rather than the lack of compression or "Poor Visuals" why would they use CD Roms, did the PS2 or Xbox Or GC use CD? no they all used DVD and Wii Being GC 1.5 why would it go backwards on storage?
SuperSaiyan4 4 Feb 2008 16:09
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haritori wrote:
SuperSaiyan4 wrote:
Then that must be really poor compression then...Dual Layer DVD games for the Xbox 360 are leagues ahead of Wii games so am really surprised at the Wii using dual layer dvd's. All this time I thought they used CD Roms for their games hahaha considering the poor quality in visuals.
No they have always used, DVD, and they dont really need compression like 360 does as no HD is involved, although im sure some compression is in there somwhere but the use of DualLayer is most likely down to the amount of content rather than the lack of compression or "Poor Visuals" why would they use CD Roms, did the PS2 or Xbox Or GC use CD? no they all used DVD and Wii Being GC 1.5 why would it go backwards on storage?
Sorry was being a bit silly, well perhaps they hardly use that much compression but to use dual layer dvd the game must have a serious amount of content on it. Or hopefully this one of the Wii games that looks very impressive visually?
The only thing that puts me off perhaps getting this game when it comes out is it seems to be yet again based around Mario I am just absolutly sick of Mario everything seems to be spin off's of Mario!
Could you imagine if Microsoft did that with HALO? Halo, Halo adventures, Halo - Masterchief goes skiing, Halo - Masterchief hits the sun, Halo - Race central, Halo - Big guns etc aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!
JPV711 4 Feb 2008 16:11
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Like the 360, the Wii has its share of great looking games. And it's share of bad looking games.
Sure, games have to look good, but the gameplay matters a lot more. And you're thinking "that's what all Wii owners say", right? It's true, gameplay matters more.
Who still plays Goldeneye on the N64 or Conker's Bad Fur Day multiplayer on the N64? For all their flaws and framerate slow downs, they're still great.
Don't get what SuperSaiyan4 means by poor compression. 360 DVD DL games look great but Wii games don't. Wii, 576i. 360, 720p. Wouldn't the Wii games look better going by that logic? Less data to store... someone explain.
Sure, games have to look good, but the gameplay matters a lot more. And you're thinking "that's what all Wii owners say", right? It's true, gameplay matters more.
Who still plays Goldeneye on the N64 or Conker's Bad Fur Day multiplayer on the N64? For all their flaws and framerate slow downs, they're still great.
Don't get what SuperSaiyan4 means by poor compression. 360 DVD DL games look great but Wii games don't. Wii, 576i. 360, 720p. Wouldn't the Wii games look better going by that logic? Less data to store... someone explain.
deleted 4 Feb 2008 18:39
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JPV711 wrote:
Like the 360, the Wii has its share of great looking games. And it's share of bad looking games.
Sure, games have to look good, but the gameplay matters a lot more. And you're thinking "that's what all Wii owners say", right? It's true, gameplay matters more.
Who still plays Goldeneye on the N64 or Conker's Bad Fur Day multiplayer on the N64? For all their flaws and framerate slow downs, they're still great.
Don't get what SuperSaiyan4 means by poor compression. 360 DVD DL games look great but Wii games don't. Wii, 576i. 360, 720p. Wouldn't the Wii games look better going by that logic? Less data to store... someone explain.
Sure, games have to look good, but the gameplay matters a lot more. And you're thinking "that's what all Wii owners say", right? It's true, gameplay matters more.
Who still plays Goldeneye on the N64 or Conker's Bad Fur Day multiplayer on the N64? For all their flaws and framerate slow downs, they're still great.
Don't get what SuperSaiyan4 means by poor compression. 360 DVD DL games look great but Wii games don't. Wii, 576i. 360, 720p. Wouldn't the Wii games look better going by that logic? Less data to store... someone explain.
LOL, i think Proi will have something to say about the goldeneye part, and he would be right in a sense, they were great at the time but crap now.
Ever played Tomb Raider recently, remember the awe at seeing that T-Rex for the first time attacking you, well play it now and watching its clipping and framerate and antianalising and lighting and shadow problems makes me cry,
Try putting final fantasy VII on and get in the same emotional frame of mind the first time you played it, when you see your polygons(Cloud) run around and its impossible to feel the game,
Gameplay is a lot, but so are visuals, now remake tomb raider (as has been done) and how much better is it, remake FFVII (please!!!!) and that emotion will be back.
its just not good enough to replay them they need refreshing, otherwise, consoles wouldnt really need upgrading why would a PS3 or 360 or wii exsist if we were happy with the PSone infact Nes graphics as long as the gameplay was there?
Smelly 4 Feb 2008 19:24
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SuperSaiyan4 wrote:
The only thing that puts me off perhaps getting this game when it comes out is it seems to be yet again based around Mario I am just absolutly sick of Mario everything seems to be spin off's of Mario!!!
Okay, now lets look at this from another angle.
There have been 3 "proper" 3d mario games, and 3 halo games.
Every single halo game has looked/played and controlled differently from the last. Each one is in different environments and genuinely tries to change and innovate between versions.
All 3 mario games have been exactly the same.
.. Oh wait...
Smelly 4 Feb 2008 19:26
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And as for saying "the graphics on the wii arent as good as the 360 so why does this game need dual layer?"
I'll not answer that question, as that's quite frankly the most f-witted thing i've ever read online. Well done!
BTW: If anyone can look at smash bros graphics and say they dont look "good enough" then they're quite frankly blind.
I'll not answer that question, as that's quite frankly the most f-witted thing i've ever read online. Well done!
BTW: If anyone can look at smash bros graphics and say they dont look "good enough" then they're quite frankly blind.
daz 5 Feb 2008 02:02
12/12
haritori wrote:
JPV711 wrote:
Ever played Tomb Raider recently, remember the awe at seeing that T-Rex for the first time attacking you, well play it now and watching its clipping and framerate and antianalising and lighting and shadow problems makes me cry,
Try putting final fantasy VII on and get in the same emotional frame of mind the first time you played it, when you see your polygons(Cloud) run around and its impossible to feel the game,
Try putting final fantasy VII on and get in the same emotional frame of mind the first time you played it, when you see your polygons(Cloud) run around and its impossible to feel the game,
speak for yourself, I love FFVII as much now as I did back then, I still play plenty of my PS games