New Alarming Chinese Piracy Threat To Nintendo

I wonder if the makers of this device are going to write to The Times to thank them for such a positive review.

It's quick, worked perfectly, easy and cheap. If they are supposed to be supporting the copyright holders, why don't they lie and say it was problematic, took ages to set up and the games didn't run properly to try to put people off?

Probably because Murdoch doesn't have much interest in video games - but he does have an enormous interest in China.

Last time i checked newspapers were supposed to report the truth...right?

Aye, newspapers report, you decide... now, who said that?

Wasn't Murdoch recently quoted as saying he doesn't exert any editorial control over The Times or The Times on Sunday? Apparently it's part of the deal with the papers put in place when NewsCorp bought them. However, he has admitted to direct editorial input on The Sun and News of the World.

Ah, well I trust what Murdoch says implicitly!

The sad truth of the original story, and now it being reported on Spong, is that people who didn't know these devices even existed will now be rushing off to the obvious places to buy them.

It's understandable, because you can't report it without bringing to people's attention, but it is just like I say - sad.

He WAS quoted as saying that, but he he did so in an interview with the House of Lords Communications Committee which was conducting an enquiry into media ownership and the news. So what did you expect him to say?

The minutes of the enquiry show that "Murdoch did not disguise the fact that he is hands on both economically and editorially. He says that 'the law' prevents him from instructing the editors of The Times and The Sunday Times."

But what law allows him to exercise direct editorial control of some papers but not others?

If you really want to see how much "independence" Murdoch allows his editors: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,897015,00.html

That was pretty much my point.

It's like these crime documentaries that show all the mistakes criminals make and how the police caught them. Wouldn't it be better to keep that information away from the crims?

Truth be told I own one of these and "love it!". That said I did purchase it with good intentions, to use the ds to play some vids and mp3's since i was always carying it with me anyway. Ironically I was gifted a zune about a month later and all the R4 has been sued for since is roms. That sad anything I have played to any great length has been purchased. I generally just enjoying having it around to try out new things and to kill time on games I would never waste money on. 1 example is resident evil: dead silence. I've actually played through half the game so far but thats only because I never got to play the original and the R4 has a cheat system built in. I would not punish myself with this game if i did not have unlimited ammo and a rocket launcher to start. So no guilt there. Though I suppose I could buy an action replay or something of the sort (do they even make one for ds?) but this is a one time occurrence and hardly worth the cost. At any rate having access to a huge list of games i'd never buy has actually kind of tarnished the DS for me a bit. It used to be one of my most used systems. I would even sit and play it at home. Now it's turned into any other ROM system. For anyone that has ever had a large collection of roms on there pc can probably attest your attention span for such things is immediately diminished. The first time a game gets tough or frustrating i just switch it off and put in something else. Never really making any headway because there is always the lure of something else.

Anyway just my two cents.
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well they said 10 DS games cost £400.00 when that is more like £300.00, even with the R4 and the SD card its still £350.00 so i think a little poetic licence was used.

and lets not forget the papers tend to like to damage the gaming industry so to advertise this as a bad thing would be any benifit to them therefore the truth on this occasion would sell more papers, hmmm the irony!

Oh, I'm not defending him, I was opening up the wider topic of his interference. Perhaps my excised final line of "Yeah I didn't believe him either." should have remained to make sure there was no misinterpretation of my tone?

I also found it strange that he openly admitted to "editorial guidance" of The Sun and The News of the World, but not The Times. Perhaps he thought the communications committee were more likely to read The Times and not care what the proles read in The Sun?


From the report I heard on the BBC (Radio 4 I think) it's more like the terms of the agreement put in place at the time News International bought out Times Newspapers. As far as I understand it, there's a board that's supposed to make sure he doesn't interfere directly. Of course there's no getting around the fact that he could sack any member of the board any time he wanted to, so there's no proof they don't listen to his every whim.

My R4 cost me $40 with free shipping and came with a 1 gig memory card that holds several games. Waaaay cheaper than $400 it would cost me to buy 10 new games at msrp. I certainly don't want to go advertising for em but if anyone on here who has my email address wants to ask me I'd be glad to tell you where the deals are ;)
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Just to give you an indication of the effect this story can have, I've just bought one of these units and for a little less than they're reported to be going for in Japan..

I've bought it with the intention of using it for homebrew games and emulation, but eventually I know I'm going to start testing out commercial ROMs. I sincerely hope that testing them is all I do.