Microsoft Sorry Not To See PAL PS3 For Xmas
Xbox executive upset at not seeing Sony’s next-gen console… yeah and right.
Speaking to Aussie website, PALGN, David McLean, Microsoft’s Regional Director, Australia and New Zealand, Entertainment and Devices Division claims that the PS3s no-show has not, “…affected our strategy or plans for Xbox 360 this year.”
This, of course, is very much like the Duke of Wellington claiming that a Napoleon no-show at the battle of Waterloo wouldn’t alter his thinking.
Moving further into Corpro-Speak, McLean took ‘bullish’ to new and deeply disingenuous levels by saying, “In fact, to be honest, we’re disappointed that consumers won’t be able to compare the two consoles side-by-side this Christmas and then make their purchasing decision a position from which we believe we win.”
It’s good to see that this statement included, “to be honest” otherwise we might not have believed him.
Finally, the McLean-meister speaks out about region-coding of 360 titles – while somehow avoiding the phrase, ‘going-forward’. Is Microsoft for or against it? “As a platform holder, we encourage our game publishers to make their own decision on regional coding. If a games publisher wants to make a region free game, then that’s their choice.”
Source: PALGN
This, of course, is very much like the Duke of Wellington claiming that a Napoleon no-show at the battle of Waterloo wouldn’t alter his thinking.
Moving further into Corpro-Speak, McLean took ‘bullish’ to new and deeply disingenuous levels by saying, “In fact, to be honest, we’re disappointed that consumers won’t be able to compare the two consoles side-by-side this Christmas and then make their purchasing decision a position from which we believe we win.”
It’s good to see that this statement included, “to be honest” otherwise we might not have believed him.
Finally, the McLean-meister speaks out about region-coding of 360 titles – while somehow avoiding the phrase, ‘going-forward’. Is Microsoft for or against it? “As a platform holder, we encourage our game publishers to make their own decision on regional coding. If a games publisher wants to make a region free game, then that’s their choice.”
Source: PALGN
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SCiARA 18 Dec 2006 14:48
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its all about choice aye? so where's my HDMI cable??? aye??? aye???????
LUPOS 18 Dec 2006 15:49
2/12
SCiARA wrote:
its all about choice aye? so where's my HDMI cable??? aye??? aye???????
So, you want extra control put on your system? Youd preffer a cable that could possibly prevent you from viewing content at its intended resolution if you dont have the right TV? Well, i suppose it is "all about choice".
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king skins 18 Dec 2006 15:56
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LUPOS wrote:
SCiARA wrote:
its all about choice aye? so where's my HDMI cable??? aye??? aye???????
So, you want extra control put on your system? Youd preffer a cable that could possibly prevent you from viewing content at its intended resolution if you dont have the right TV? Well, i suppose it is "all about choice".
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I'd prefer the right cable to go with my TV so I could watch my dvd's upscalled. As my HDTV doesn't have VGA and the 360 will only upscale through a VGA cable and not Component.
I but would also be happy with a DVI cable, more options would be nice :)
SCiARA 18 Dec 2006 15:56
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LUPOS wrote:
SCiARA wrote:
its all about choice aye? so where's my HDMI cable??? aye??? aye???????
So, you want extra control put on your system? Youd preffer a cable that could possibly prevent you from viewing content at its intended resolution if you dont have the right TV? Well, i suppose it is "all about choice".
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But I do have the right tv, and would like the HD-DVD add on to be played through HDMI as
1. The VGA on my set has a darker, softer washed out look compared to component (which is limited to 720p with the hd-dvd)
2. Not as many options to alter picture settings through my vga
3. No matter how many times people say otherwise, I personally feel that given a good set, HDMI in general will give a better picture.
LUPOS 18 Dec 2006 16:48
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SCiARA wrote:
But I do have the right tv
Do you? Does your tv have the newer standard which is required to view blu-ray on with otu it forceabley downscalling it? I know we are talking about xbox here but the HDMI standard is being used to push further copy protection.
SCiARA wrote:
, and would like the HD-DVD add on to be played through HDMI as
1. The VGA on my set has a darker, softer washed out look compared to component (which is limited to 720p with the hd-dvd)
1. The VGA on my set has a darker, softer washed out look compared to component (which is limited to 720p with the hd-dvd)
My point was not that you shouldnt have the option or that it wouldn't be good to have, i was mainly infering the HDMI is bad because it allows for the added copy protection which is intendd to prevent peopel from backing up the media they paid for. Thanks but no.
SCiARA wrote:
2. Not as many options to alter picture settings through my vga
see above
SCiARA wrote:
3. No matter how many times people say otherwise, I personally feel that given a good set, HDMI in general will give a better picture.
DVI is the same quality and the only dif is the inclusion of audio in the wire which seems absurd to me anyway as i just use the digital out to my suround sound system, as any self respecting HDTV owner would.
Truth be told both standards (blu-ray and HDDVD) are intended to push further copy protection underthe guies of more advanced technology. Certainly there is a market for highdef content now but i dont think its strong enough yet.
Im hardly expert on the topic, so if anyone feels like corectign me please do (like you need my permision), but HDMI seems a bad route in general and MS's reluctance to adopt it is only seen as a good thing in my eyes (man i loves me soem xbox, hurrr). Plus i've seen plenty of side by sides, the difference between component and HDMI/DVI on most TV's in almost non existant.
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SCiARA 18 Dec 2006 17:14
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i gotta say that in all my years of viewing DVD's and more recently HD-DVD's i've never had a problem because i could'nt back it up.
as i am talking about movies and 360 games i have no problems about backing things up, hell, if it stops pirate copies of them i'm all for it
as i am talking about movies and 360 games i have no problems about backing things up, hell, if it stops pirate copies of them i'm all for it
LUPOS 18 Dec 2006 17:25
7/12
SCiARA wrote:
i gotta say that in all my years of viewing DVD's and more recently HD-DVD's i've never had a problem because i could'nt back it up.
Tis a principle thing my friend. You ever have a problem putting a cd on an mp3 player? no? How bout putting one of your dvd movies that you own on your ipod or other portable media playing device? Yes you say? My my, that is a problem. But you say you found an illegal piece of software that allows you to watch your own movies where you want to. Thank goodness someone made sucha fine product and you where lucky enough to know where to find it. But i hear these new fangled High Def Formats are much trickier to copy, I sure hope some "Pirate haxor" finds a way to allow me to watch the movies i pay for. Sure is a shame about how watching thigns i pay for is illegal. Why i remember a time not so long ago when buying something meant you actually owned it and soda pop only cost a nickle.
Wheres my pudding!
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SCiARA 18 Dec 2006 17:29
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lol
must be me cos i never have had those probs!!
must be me cos i never have had those probs!!
king skins 19 Dec 2006 09:14
9/12
LUPOS wrote:
SCiARA wrote:
i gotta say that in all my years of viewing DVD's and more recently HD-DVD's i've never had a problem because i could'nt back it up.
Tis a principle thing my friend. You ever have a problem putting a cd on an mp3 player? no? How bout putting one of your dvd movies that you own on your ipod or other portable media playing device? Yes you say? My my, that is a problem. But you say you found an illegal piece of software that allows you to watch your own movies where you want to. Thank goodness someone made sucha fine product and you where lucky enough to know where to find it. But i hear these new fangled High Def Formats are much trickier to copy, I sure hope some "Pirate haxor" finds a way to allow me to watch the movies i pay for. Sure is a shame about how watching thigns i pay for is illegal. Why i remember a time not so long ago when buying something meant you actually owned it and soda pop only cost a nickle.
Wheres my pudding!
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Its actually technically illegal for you to put your CD's on your MP3 player in the UK, although the Music companies have said that they will not prosecute people for doing so.
PreciousRoi 19 Dec 2006 10:13
10/12
HDMI is bad.
But not just for the reason thats been cited, at least not directly.
My greatest opposition to it comes from the bare fact of having already invested in several DVI displays. After investing in what was new technology in one of the slowest developing technologival areas (displays), the thought of being forced to buy newer, yet only marginally improved displays enrages me.
HDMI seems to be an excellent solution moving forward for HD A/V it would and probably will be an ideal HD era replacement for the old yellow, red, and white RCA cabling which became the Kleenex of AV cables. HOWEVER...if only for one of the reasons stated above, the fact that the better equipment you have and the more saavy you are the less likely you are to want your audio and video signal going to the same place, it is actually less attractive to these users.
To my albeit limited understanding, its analagous to DVI only with sound and the added encryption... I like DVI just fine, give me DVI... I have no interest in using DVI to copy hidef movies, I am sure some clever bugger will figure out a way to do it even if you take everyones DVI away, so forcing me to buy displays with HDMI is a ploy and punishes early to fairly recent HD adopters.
But DVI isn't going anywhere...it is an entrenched standard in the computer industry...just when the consumer electronics and computers were beginning to see some common ground and greater interconnectivity along comes this unneccessary and gratuitous divide, perpatrated by those in the consumer electronics side. Perhaps its most effective use, rather than combatting piracy will be to combat such interconnectivity preventing computers and related devices from further penetration into the more traditional home electronics sector. The PS3, although certainly a computer of considerable power, gets a pass and monopoly as HDMI media hub as Sony is one of HDMI's architechts.
Finally, much as I would love to see one a DVI cable for the 360 might not be technically possible given the current state of the hardware and my once again, limited understanding of it. AFAIK, there isnt a digital output from the 360, so any DVI cable solution would be of an analog nature, which sorta defeats the purpose doesn't it?
But not just for the reason thats been cited, at least not directly.
My greatest opposition to it comes from the bare fact of having already invested in several DVI displays. After investing in what was new technology in one of the slowest developing technologival areas (displays), the thought of being forced to buy newer, yet only marginally improved displays enrages me.
HDMI seems to be an excellent solution moving forward for HD A/V it would and probably will be an ideal HD era replacement for the old yellow, red, and white RCA cabling which became the Kleenex of AV cables. HOWEVER...if only for one of the reasons stated above, the fact that the better equipment you have and the more saavy you are the less likely you are to want your audio and video signal going to the same place, it is actually less attractive to these users.
To my albeit limited understanding, its analagous to DVI only with sound and the added encryption... I like DVI just fine, give me DVI... I have no interest in using DVI to copy hidef movies, I am sure some clever bugger will figure out a way to do it even if you take everyones DVI away, so forcing me to buy displays with HDMI is a ploy and punishes early to fairly recent HD adopters.
But DVI isn't going anywhere...it is an entrenched standard in the computer industry...just when the consumer electronics and computers were beginning to see some common ground and greater interconnectivity along comes this unneccessary and gratuitous divide, perpatrated by those in the consumer electronics side. Perhaps its most effective use, rather than combatting piracy will be to combat such interconnectivity preventing computers and related devices from further penetration into the more traditional home electronics sector. The PS3, although certainly a computer of considerable power, gets a pass and monopoly as HDMI media hub as Sony is one of HDMI's architechts.
Finally, much as I would love to see one a DVI cable for the 360 might not be technically possible given the current state of the hardware and my once again, limited understanding of it. AFAIK, there isnt a digital output from the 360, so any DVI cable solution would be of an analog nature, which sorta defeats the purpose doesn't it?
king skins 19 Dec 2006 10:33
11/12
PreciousRoi wrote:
Finally, much as I would love to see one a DVI cable for the 360 might not be technically possible given the current state of the hardware and my once again, limited understanding of it. AFAIK, there isnt a digital output from the 360, so any DVI cable solution would be of an analog nature, which sorta defeats the purpose doesn't it?
MS confirmed a couple of months back that the 360 is capable of digital output.
http://digg.com/gaming_news/Confirmed_XBox360_can_transmit_a_DIGITAL_1080p_signal
http://uk.gear.ign.com/articles/735/735860p1.html
I'd prefer a DVI cable for my 360 as my HDMI port already has my Cambridge Audio DVD player plugged into it.
PreciousRoi 19 Dec 2006 10:51
12/12
IGN interview from second link wrote:
IGN: Can the X360 send out a digital signal now, or ever?
Microsoft Xbox 360 currently doesn't include a digital out connection for video. Our platform is flexible enough to allow support of a digital connection in the future should we choose to do so.
Microsoft Xbox 360 currently doesn't include a digital out connection for video. Our platform is flexible enough to allow support of a digital connection in the future should we choose to do so.
You could read that several ways...