SPOnG’s a big fan of Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Vegas. It’s a beautiful looking videogame, plus it is one of the first multiplayer titles on the 360 that makes full use of the Live Vision Camera, to enable you to map your face onto your in-game character (see Adam's ugly mug, pictured right here!).
However, we’re rather perturbed to see that a bug list as long as our arm has cropped up, with the development team having posted on the game’s official forum a list of items that they are ‘addressing’ in an upcoming patch (see below).
The patch covers a numbers of key fixes for 36 gameplay issues, including the voice chat bug (which seems to have been the most annoying for fans), plus a variety of crash bugs and a Live Vision Camera bug.
This all begs the question, should this game have been tested more rigorously? Is this a wider concern for gamers?
Let us know your thoughts on this in the forum
Here's the complete list of bugs being fixed in the upcoming Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Vegas patch:
However, we’re rather perturbed to see that a bug list as long as our arm has cropped up, with the development team having posted on the game’s official forum a list of items that they are ‘addressing’ in an upcoming patch (see below).
The patch covers a numbers of key fixes for 36 gameplay issues, including the voice chat bug (which seems to have been the most annoying for fans), plus a variety of crash bugs and a Live Vision Camera bug.
This all begs the question, should this game have been tested more rigorously? Is this a wider concern for gamers?
Let us know your thoughts on this in the forum
Here's the complete list of bugs being fixed in the upcoming Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Vegas patch:
Rainbow six Vegas patch Notes
Here is a list of issues that will be addressed in the upcoming patch for Vegas. Many of these issues were reported by members of the community, thanks to everyone that took the time to communicate with us. Please understand that this first patch was being worked on a few weeks ago already and that some of the recently discovered issues may not be addressed right away. We do know about these critical issues and are planning to address them as well.
Single Player
-Fixed bugs with voice recognition
-Fixed a bug that made the game crash when killing Dr. Smythe under a specific circumstance.
Multiplayer
-Getting stuck at briefing screen when joining a match in progress
-Fixed a coop crash when failing a mission numerous times
-Fixed an exploit where observers received same kills as host in terrorist hunt
-Fixed a intermittent coop crash in map Factory
-Fixed a disconnection bug when host changes map
-Fixed a bug with live camera that forced a reboot.
-Fixed an issue with max players not being related to recommended players for maps.
-Added better feedback in the game search menus.
-Fixed a bug with the siege specialist achievement.
-Fixed players crashing when using shield and entering a game with shield restricted.
-Fixed a rare crash when starting a coop story game
-Fixed a bug that made the shield become invisible in certain circumstances.
-Fixed a display bug with weapons disappearing while using shield
-Fixed a crash while using the Live Vision Camera
-Fixed a display bug with the canister in retrieval staying visible after being taken.
-Fixed a random crash for clients in COOP games.
-Fixed a display error that showed 14 players instead of 16 for dedicated servers.
-Fixed a bug with score limits not working properly.
-Fixed a bug that sometimes prevented grenades from being used at game start.
-Fixed a crash through the world bug related to starting COOP games while playing Terrorist Hunt.
-Fixed a crash through the world bug in Casino COOP.
-Fixed a bug with invalid recommended players in COOP maps.
-Fixed a lockup in COOP mode related to clients joining a game late.
-Fixed a bug where a dedicated server set for 16 players only accepted 14.
-Added better feedback in the game search menus
-Remove proximity voice chat from team games.
-Adjust TerroHunt XP based on density setting:
- Fixed bug regarding voice chat - Now voice chat works for all players
- Fixed a crash where clients crash when host change map or quit the game before they have time to load lobby
-Fixed a crash when clientnt selects Option/ Map name either in the lobby or In game
-Fixed a bug related to the infiltration specialist achievement
-Fixed a bug where when score limit is 10 a game does not end when canister is deposited
- Fixed a bug in splitscreen:Crash when player 2 Press ready before player 1 in the login profile menu
- Fixed a bug where game occasionally crashes on boot at the Title Screen.
General
-Fixed some localization errors in Spanish
Here is a list of issues that will be addressed in the upcoming patch for Vegas. Many of these issues were reported by members of the community, thanks to everyone that took the time to communicate with us. Please understand that this first patch was being worked on a few weeks ago already and that some of the recently discovered issues may not be addressed right away. We do know about these critical issues and are planning to address them as well.
Single Player
-Fixed bugs with voice recognition
-Fixed a bug that made the game crash when killing Dr. Smythe under a specific circumstance.
Multiplayer
-Getting stuck at briefing screen when joining a match in progress
-Fixed a coop crash when failing a mission numerous times
-Fixed an exploit where observers received same kills as host in terrorist hunt
-Fixed a intermittent coop crash in map Factory
-Fixed a disconnection bug when host changes map
-Fixed a bug with live camera that forced a reboot.
-Fixed an issue with max players not being related to recommended players for maps.
-Added better feedback in the game search menus.
-Fixed a bug with the siege specialist achievement.
-Fixed players crashing when using shield and entering a game with shield restricted.
-Fixed a rare crash when starting a coop story game
-Fixed a bug that made the shield become invisible in certain circumstances.
-Fixed a display bug with weapons disappearing while using shield
-Fixed a crash while using the Live Vision Camera
-Fixed a display bug with the canister in retrieval staying visible after being taken.
-Fixed a random crash for clients in COOP games.
-Fixed a display error that showed 14 players instead of 16 for dedicated servers.
-Fixed a bug with score limits not working properly.
-Fixed a bug that sometimes prevented grenades from being used at game start.
-Fixed a crash through the world bug related to starting COOP games while playing Terrorist Hunt.
-Fixed a crash through the world bug in Casino COOP.
-Fixed a bug with invalid recommended players in COOP maps.
-Fixed a lockup in COOP mode related to clients joining a game late.
-Fixed a bug where a dedicated server set for 16 players only accepted 14.
-Added better feedback in the game search menus
-Remove proximity voice chat from team games.
-Adjust TerroHunt XP based on density setting:
- Fixed bug regarding voice chat - Now voice chat works for all players
- Fixed a crash where clients crash when host change map or quit the game before they have time to load lobby
-Fixed a crash when clientnt selects Option/ Map name either in the lobby or In game
-Fixed a bug related to the infiltration specialist achievement
-Fixed a bug where when score limit is 10 a game does not end when canister is deposited
- Fixed a bug in splitscreen:Crash when player 2 Press ready before player 1 in the login profile menu
- Fixed a bug where game occasionally crashes on boot at the Title Screen.
General
-Fixed some localization errors in Spanish
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Comments
PreciousRoi 12 Dec 2006 23:23
1/4
this is the dark side of the coin...I saw this coming with the advent of patches via LIVE. Its disgraceful. Beta testers shouldnt have to pay for the product they're testing.
RiseFromYourGrave 12 Dec 2006 23:51
2/4
yeah this is appalling. like roy said, its as if the customer is the beta tester. the product that they parted with their cash for was by no means finished it seems
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tyrion 13 Dec 2006 08:36
3/4
RiseFromYourGrave wrote:
yeah this is appalling. like roy said, its as if the customer is the beta tester. the product that they parted with their cash for was by no means finished it seems
I'd make some cheap comment here about Microsoft having done this for ages with Windows, but I can't see games on the PS3 being any better.
Console games used to be "print and be damned" type affairs that were cast in stone the second they left the cart manufacturers so they had to be as close to perfect as they could be. Then when we switched to CD, it was easier to do several pressings and have an updated version go out if there were game destroying bugs in the original version. Now with Internet connectivity and systems that allow patching via hard drive installed executables that load the audio/visual assets from the original discs, we have the ultimate in "fix it when the players find it" environments.
All of this, coupled with the rising complexity of game code, has led to a situation where even the most well-intentioned game developer must be sorely tempted to "fix it later" and to hang with the gamers.
Progress, eh?
king skins 13 Dec 2006 09:59
4/4
tyrion wrote:
RiseFromYourGrave wrote:
yeah this is appalling. like roy said, its as if the customer is the beta tester. the product that they parted with their cash for was by no means finished it seems
I'd make some cheap comment here about Microsoft having done this for ages with Windows, but I can't see games on the PS3 being any better.
Console games used to be "print and be damned" type affairs that were cast in stone the second they left the cart manufacturers so they had to be as close to perfect as they could be. Then when we switched to CD, it was easier to do several pressings and have an updated version go out if there were game destroying bugs in the original version. Now with Internet connectivity and systems that allow patching via hard drive installed executables that load the audio/visual assets from the original discs, we have the ultimate in "fix it when the players find it" environments.
All of this, coupled with the rising complexity of game code, has led to a situation where even the most well-intentioned game developer must be sorely tempted to "fix it later" and to hang with the gamers.
Progress, eh?
Being a little harsh here guys. I with you that games sould be fully tested and most if not all bugs should be removed before launch.
This patch, from what I understand, is for the multiplayer game only? And with multiplayer games there is pretty much always going to be something to patch as people find ways to cheat and destroy the game experience for everyone else.
But this does seam pretty close to the actual relaese...
But Gears of War could do with a patch to give the Host the ability to change the games setting once the game has been setup... why they didn't think of this before the game got released...