Judge on Bully: ‘See More Violence on TV Every Night’

Case dismissed, Jack Thompson fires off angry missive

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In what comes in as the least surprising news of the weekend just gone, the Florida Judge shown a copy of Bully last week has declared the game fit for sale and in no way a ‘public nuisance.’

The game, which has a teen-only rating in the US and a 15 rating in the UK, goes on sale later this week.

SPOnG can confirm that Canis Canem Edit is a cracker and we also agree with Judge Ronald Friedman, who told a crestfallen Jack Thompson in court last week that the game contains less violence than “we see on television every night."

In addition to previewing the game to specialist press, Rockstar also made the very wise decision to show the BBC News the game last week, in light of the potentially negative press resulting from Thompson’s legal shenanigans over in the sunshine state.

BBC News online then went on to clearly report that, “the main character has to defend himself from school bullies as well as form alliances with different cliques in the school….Tackling the bullies and stopping them from picking on other children is a key feature of the game.”

Now, of course, we all knew this was the case, but the fact that Rockstar have successfully managed to get the BBC on-board is a real PR coup for which they deserve some kind of medal. SPOnG will pop down the market later on to get one made up for them.

Thompson, by all accounts, left the court fuming and immediately fired off to Judge Friedman the barking mad, angry missive you can see below in all its glory. What was that someone said about giving him enough rope?

Judge Ronald Friedman
Dade County Courthouse
13th Floor
73 West Flagler Street
Miami, Florida 33130
Re: Bully
Dear Judge Friedman:

Now that you have consigned innumerable children to skull fractures, eye injuries from slingshots, and beatings with baseball bats, without a hearing as to the danger, let me tell you a few things, with all respect for your office and with no respect for the arbitrary way in which you handled this matter. I can handle an adverse ruling by a judge. I've had plenty of those in my lifetime, and that's fine. But the way you conducted yourself today helps explain why a great Dade County Judge, the late Rhea Pincus Grossman, could not abide you. She was not the only one:

1. Well into this case, you told Take-Two to produce "a tape of the game so you could watch it." Video games don't come on tapes, Judge, and you don't watch them. You interactively play them, which is why they are so behavior modifying. You, the player/protagonist, enter into the violence and do it, but you didn't even want to hear testimony about that. You are not an expert in bullying or virtual reality, and I had an expert in both, and you never heard from them because you did not want to hear from them. Dr. Provenzo could have explained why interactive consumption of this very violence is so dangerous, as opposed to passively consumed violence on television, but he was not allowed to testify because he was prevented from seeing the evidence.

You were very nice to my other expert, Miami Police Chief Ken Harms, and then made it certain that your courtroom would not be graced with his real expertise. I would have preferred less courtesy and more due process, and so would the victims that are on the way.

2. Take-Two's lawyer, Rebecca Ward, lied in your courtroom when she told you that a "Teen" rating is an age restriction at the point of sale. That is an utter fabrication, and you are on notice that it is an utter fabrication. Ms. Ward is very good at fabricating things for a client that routinely engages in criminal conduct, and you bought all this hook, line, and sinker. Take-Two has been adjudicated by the federal government to have engaged in fraud and deception about game content, and you took their unchallenged word of these two video gamers in your chambers that the game was what they said it was.

3. You assured us, in your courtroom two days ago, that you would view the playing of Bully to its conclusion. That is what you promised on the record. You did not keep your promise. The transcript of that bizarre exercise will show that you asked Take-Two reps "How does the game end?" You never saw the ending. What you took was testimony from two employees of Take-Two/Rockstar, who were not under oath, and without affording me any opportunity to question them. This was an ex parte proceeding that I was forced to watch, nearly gagging on the denial of due process that it constituted. In thirty years of practicing law, it is the oddest thing I have ever seen, and the most judicially arbitrary thing I have ever seen.

But it is not the oddest thing Take-Two has done. They had these little contrived, controlled viewings of the game for people in the media, but even the BBC figured out how violent the game was, despite the sham.

What you conducted in your chambers, Judge, was the equivalent of Iran leading UN weapons inspectors around the country taking them to places where the illegal activity was not occurring.

You would not abide argument today, because the Miami Herald was there, that Take-Two had in fact released this game to the mass media, which waived its privilege as to producing it to me. You did not allow a hearing to occur because the media there would have seen how you railroaded this entire matter--at the expense of children's safety.

4. You said after being shown what Take-Two wanted you to see that "I've seen worse." Judge, that is not the issue. The issue is whether this game, played by ten-year-olds, whom the FTC says can still walk into Wal-Mart and other retail establishments and buy "Mature" games, will harm them and innocent third parties who get in their way. You are not the measure of the harm. It was your job to let me try to prove the harm. But you didn't want to hear it.

5. How dare you, Judge, promise a hearing today and then prevent that hearing from occurring. How dare you, Judge, petulantly order the production of the game after it is released on Tuesday morning. I didn't even ask for that. You did that out of spite, and you were smiling when you did that. You really enjoyed that one, didn't you, Judge?

6. Finally, Judge, when the reports start coming in from across the country as to the harm that Bully is causing, I want you to think of the parents who rely upon judges to grant due process, apply the laws evenly, and keep their word. The Republicans in the Congress of the United States apparently can't protect pages, and the Miami-Dade judicial system can't even protect children, let alone its own reputation.

You broke every promise made me. Disagree with me if you like, but don't refuse to hold a hearing you promised to have. Don't promise to view an entire game and then cut out after an hour.

I couldn't care less what you did to me. What I care is that you, through judicial arrogance, have hung countless kids out to dry in school that will now be meaner and more dangerous.

Next time you promise a "hearing," I'll bring a parent with me whose kid is in the ground because of a kid who trained to kill him or her on a violent video game. Try mocking that person, I dare you.

Regards, Jack Thompson

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Comments

Dreadknux 16 Oct 2006 10:56
1/13
Wow. From that response, it looks like he's been playing too many violent video games. :P
Joji 16 Oct 2006 11:26
2/13
Proof positive that JT is a religious fruitcake zealot. Tax payers money has been wasted entertaining this nutcase when all he had to do was play the damn game to put his mind at ease, I'm sure Rockstar would have let him have a go for free. JT is so scared of games that he refuses the controller. Damn fool.

I'm glad the judge saw the light and happier that Rockstar turned the whole negative into a major positive for themselves and their game. The media touch shows that there's no such thing as bad publicity and CCE deserves to do well due to more exposure it might not have got.

Maybe Rockstar should send a PS2 and a copy of CCE to JT, he's just boosted their sales hugely with this courtroom bs.

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PreciousRoi 16 Oct 2006 11:50
3/13
wow.

Froth at the mouth much there, Jack(ass)?

Miami-Dade Animal Control really dropped the ball letting a demonstrably raving, rabid animal like that loose on the streets.

Won't someone please think of the children?

You know what would be really funny...if Jack had some young relatives, like nephews and nieces or something, and they gave the game a positive review or something...that would be hilarious
I'll Eat Your Soul 16 Oct 2006 13:56
4/13
It is a little amusing to me that he would criticise the judge for not spending significant time with the game and only voicing opinions on brief video demonstrations when HE brought this case up based on the freaking name of the game and the history of its developer.

I hope he is penalised for his frankly offensive letter to the judge in question.
Dreadknux 16 Oct 2006 14:58
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I'll Eat Your Soul wrote:
HE brought this case up based on the freaking name of the game and the history of its developer.

But of course. I'm personally surprised Jacky Boy didn't find some violent angle on Table Tennis when that was released...
Rustman 17 Oct 2006 00:30
6/13
That Jack Thompson needs a blow-job more than any white man in history.
SPInGSPOnG 17 Oct 2006 07:12
7/13
Rustman wrote:
That Jack Thompson needs a blow-job more than any white man in history.


Dude, that's as may be.

But he DESERVES one less than any many in history.

Rustman 17 Oct 2006 08:16
8/13
Rod Todd wrote:
Rustman wrote:
That Jack Thompson needs a blow-job more than any white man in history.


Dude, that's as may be.

But he DESERVES one less than any many in history.



Touche.
Spanky2090 17 Oct 2006 10:22
9/13
I don't know why this guy is kicking off because to be fair, there are more violent games that kids play. I mean GTA was not a mature rating or 15 rating, it was R or 18+. Kids still played it. Hell, the first couple of GTA's i was 14/15 when i played them, no one complained then did they.

The point is that kids are understanding more these days when they are younger, and also when i have read numerous reports that Bully is intended to do good by stopping the bully's, you are not a bully.

I think the guy in the letter should be sent to court for wasting tax payers money and the courts time.
sneakyduck 17 Oct 2006 11:28
10/13
Svend Joscelyne wrote:
I'll Eat Your Soul wrote:
HE brought this case up based on the freaking name of the game and the history of its developer.

But of course. I'm personally surprised Jacky Boy didn't find some violent angle on Table Tennis when that was released...


I always thought "Rock* presents: JT's Table Tennis" had a nice ring to it you know?

Seriously though, I think Jack has some real misguided feelings toward our favourite passtime that need adressing. I mean sure, if what he says is correct then America does
Rustman 17 Oct 2006 11:37
11/13
sneakyduck wrote:
Svend Joscelyne wrote:
I'll Eat Your Soul wrote:
HE brought this case up based on the freaking name of the game and the history of its developer.

But of course. I'm personally surprised Jacky Boy didn't find some violent angle on Table Tennis when that was released...


I always thought "Rock* presents: JT's Table Tennis" had a nice ring to it you know?

Seriously though, I think Jack has some real misguided feelings toward our favourite passtime that need adressing. I mean sure, if what he says is correct then America does


I know of a few people that have tried to address his feelings. Unfortunately most of them vindicate his misguided beliefs that games cause violence.
Joji 17 Oct 2006 14:06
12/13
He fast becoming the Side Show Knob of the games industry, JT go home and play happy families. Turn Armish, build a church and leave us be.

What a bad loser, hate to see what he like at games, he'd probably start through holy water at you.

''Get back, foul cheating gaming demon....take that..lol!''
Joji 17 Oct 2006 14:07
13/13
He fast becoming the Side Show Knob of the games industry, JT go home and play happy families. Turn Armish, build a church and leave us be.

What a bad loser, hate to see what he's like at games, he'd probably start through holy water at you.

''Get back, foul cheating gaming demon....take that..lol!''
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