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Topic started: 16 Oct 2008 @ 12:18
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Thu, Oct 16, 08 @ 12:18
On a technicaly level MGS 4 could run better on the Xbox 360 and look far better because of the hardware in the 360 lets not forget the GPU in the 360 is technically superior to the one in the PS3 and lets not forget more memory is available in the 360 than the PS3 too.
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Thu, Oct 16, 08 @ 12:58
Wait a minute a MS employee states an MS machine could run MGS4 and that's a nail in the PS3's coffin?! What were you expecting him to say? "No the 360 can't run it and won't get it so go by a PS3 please"?! Why should his word be any more trusted than when Jack Tretton said it's impossible?
This is classic MS marketing - they've seen blogs touting the rumour again, thanks to some random Konami employees translated japanese statement about the fact 360 fanboys would want to see it on 360 - so now they issue a statement to cause some FUD in the mind of potential PS3 adopters!
Is it me or is MS far more concerned with ensuring the PS3 fails than it is ensuring the 360 is successful? It wouldn't surpirse me if MS would happily pay $50M to bring this year-old PS3 release to the 360, but if I owned a 360 I'd much rather them spend their cash on compelling 1st party titles rather than old PS franchises, exclusive DLC and exclusive Game Demos....
It's classic 360 fanboys too - when it came out on PS3 it was "doesn't matter, it's a sh*t game anyway, 360 owners like playing games not watching them", but when there's a sniff it could come to 360, suddenly it's the most important game of the 21st Century!!! Same with installs - 360 owners claim to hate them, but then say how it's no big deal to install multi-disc games on the HDD thanks to the new install functionality of the coming update!
Until I hear it from Kojima (or even someone SENIOR in Konami) I will not believe it - it's just more mud (or rather FUD) slinging from MS and it's seemingly endless supply of internet minions that blog about it.
This title needed to sell 1M copies in it's launch period to break even - in it's first 10 weeks it sold 3.5M copies, and god knows what that's grown to since - there is no reason to spend further money *trying* to port it (unless MS ponies up enough bags of cash).
Kojima himself has said from the horses mouth that he couldn't make it on XBox - so I'm more inclined to believe him than any other random nobody. In comparison the Devs behind Gears of War II could "easily" be released on PS3 but their publishers (i.e. Microsoft) wouldn't like it!!!
The PS2 owned the last generation, and by comparison the Gamecube and Xbox were failures, it stands to reason that ANY third-party sequel to a previous gen game is highly likely to have been a former PS exclusive franchise - this is not news or bad in anyway for the PS3 (they still get it too remember!).
It happens just as much to 360 third-party franchises - Lost Planet, Bioshock, Eternal Sonata, Ninja Gaiden (the original one), Mass Effect (rumoured), Left 4 Dead (rumoured), Dead Rising (rumoured). Geometry Wars, etc etc etc. - But why does no one bat an eyelid at these???
Why does everyone assume that the "death of 3rd-party exclusives" will be the death of the PS3? That would be the PS3 from Sony with around 23 active 1st party developers? Yet for some reason they think the garden is rosey for the 360, that would be the 360 from MS with around 3 activer 1st party developers!!!
This is classic MS marketing - they've seen blogs touting the rumour again, thanks to some random Konami employees translated japanese statement about the fact 360 fanboys would want to see it on 360 - so now they issue a statement to cause some FUD in the mind of potential PS3 adopters!
Is it me or is MS far more concerned with ensuring the PS3 fails than it is ensuring the 360 is successful? It wouldn't surpirse me if MS would happily pay $50M to bring this year-old PS3 release to the 360, but if I owned a 360 I'd much rather them spend their cash on compelling 1st party titles rather than old PS franchises, exclusive DLC and exclusive Game Demos....
It's classic 360 fanboys too - when it came out on PS3 it was "doesn't matter, it's a sh*t game anyway, 360 owners like playing games not watching them", but when there's a sniff it could come to 360, suddenly it's the most important game of the 21st Century!!! Same with installs - 360 owners claim to hate them, but then say how it's no big deal to install multi-disc games on the HDD thanks to the new install functionality of the coming update!
Until I hear it from Kojima (or even someone SENIOR in Konami) I will not believe it - it's just more mud (or rather FUD) slinging from MS and it's seemingly endless supply of internet minions that blog about it.
This title needed to sell 1M copies in it's launch period to break even - in it's first 10 weeks it sold 3.5M copies, and god knows what that's grown to since - there is no reason to spend further money *trying* to port it (unless MS ponies up enough bags of cash).
Kojima himself has said from the horses mouth that he couldn't make it on XBox - so I'm more inclined to believe him than any other random nobody. In comparison the Devs behind Gears of War II could "easily" be released on PS3 but their publishers (i.e. Microsoft) wouldn't like it!!!
The PS2 owned the last generation, and by comparison the Gamecube and Xbox were failures, it stands to reason that ANY third-party sequel to a previous gen game is highly likely to have been a former PS exclusive franchise - this is not news or bad in anyway for the PS3 (they still get it too remember!).
It happens just as much to 360 third-party franchises - Lost Planet, Bioshock, Eternal Sonata, Ninja Gaiden (the original one), Mass Effect (rumoured), Left 4 Dead (rumoured), Dead Rising (rumoured). Geometry Wars, etc etc etc. - But why does no one bat an eyelid at these???
Why does everyone assume that the "death of 3rd-party exclusives" will be the death of the PS3? That would be the PS3 from Sony with around 23 active 1st party developers? Yet for some reason they think the garden is rosey for the 360, that would be the 360 from MS with around 3 activer 1st party developers!!!
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Thu, Oct 16, 08 @ 14:39
SS4 you seem to have forgotten that Kojima said that MGS4 was optimised for the PS3 and therefore to run it on the 360 would require it to look, erm, not as good shall we say.
BTW, add up the components of both machines and you'll find the PS3 is more powerful. Believe it or not, a GPU doesn't make a console.
BTW, add up the components of both machines and you'll find the PS3 is more powerful. Believe it or not, a GPU doesn't make a console.
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Thu, Oct 16, 08 @ 16:57
"doesn't matter, it's a sh*t game anyway, 360 owners like playing games not watching them", but when there's a sniff it could come to 360, suddenly it's the most important game of the 21st Century!!! Same with installs - 360 owners claim to hate them, but then say how it's no big deal to install multi-disc games on the HDD thanks to the new install functionality of the coming update!
I'm gonna have to stick with "Doesn't matter." As for the installs, they aren't even remotely comparable. In PC terms, the PS3 installs some files, the 360 will be a FULL install, with the game disc required only for verification and no reads from the disc while actually playing.Gott weiß ich will kein Engel sein
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Thu, Oct 16, 08 @ 16:57
I can't help but laugh at your serious lack of knowledge hypertails, Kojima himself stated that MGS 4 could run on the Xbox 360 perfectly fine, for him it was about the storage.
Err yes a GPU does make a console just like a graphics card makes a PC because without it you cant do f**k all.
Sony were hoping their uber CELL which is ONLY a processor could process all the graphics but they were wrong, they needed a GPU and opted for an off the shelf s**tty 7800 series however developers are having to use software to get similar results as the 360 which does it all via hardware.
The PS3 is more powerful on paper yes only because of the CPU, but have we seen this power? No, the CPU can only process the data the developers give it via the games and there are limitations such as the GPU in the PS3 where the CELL has to takeover and memory where the PS3 has less to offer than the 360.
Err yes a GPU does make a console just like a graphics card makes a PC because without it you cant do f**k all.
Sony were hoping their uber CELL which is ONLY a processor could process all the graphics but they were wrong, they needed a GPU and opted for an off the shelf s**tty 7800 series however developers are having to use software to get similar results as the 360 which does it all via hardware.
The PS3 is more powerful on paper yes only because of the CPU, but have we seen this power? No, the CPU can only process the data the developers give it via the games and there are limitations such as the GPU in the PS3 where the CELL has to takeover and memory where the PS3 has less to offer than the 360.
XBOX 360 Resident Evil Edition Elite, Sony HTSF1100 5.1 surround system, Samsung 40inch R74 720p HDTV + 60GB Playstation 3
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