im all for toughing rating systems on games, if it keeps the game sout of the hands of kids and allows uneducated partents to make a better decision then great, what i dont want is an excuse for certifcation boards to ban or edit games to fit there ratings system, if manhunt 2 was banned under the new system it shoudl have a higher rating of 18+ and maybe something else to show that it is an extremity in voilence for a game.

we still live in a country where porn must edited and given an 18+ to the point that channel 4 shows harder stuff.. dont they think a consenting adult who can actually take part in sexual intercourse and can see whatever they feel like seeing while comitting the act, can not watch it on video and somehow become corrupted, that is unless it sexucational?

A third tier classification board, so basicaly a Daily Mail childrens panel of do-gooder judges who can reverse decisions by the BBFC and ban games or request they be censored?

a waste of taxpayers money and the start of a whole new era of censorship for grown adults who play videogames,I also see this as a blow to fixing Britains feral youth rather than facing the real issues, of bullying, drug abuse, gangs, home life, poverty, failed education and opportunities; they ban violent videogames and everything is a utipia.

i support james's ideas this rubbish has got nanny state written all over it
(in big flashing purple neon letters)

I tend to agree. But it is a thorny subject. As responsible gamers, we know that shooting people in the head in a game will not make us want to do it in real life. But it is still inevitable that the glorification of violence and the relentless depiction if it as an inevitable and effective resolution to conflict will inure young people to it. The media represents violence as an admirable course of action - rarely is mediation and dialogue represented in the same way. The results of violence (grieving relatives, dismembered bodies, intolerable pain, broken lives) are rarely shown, nor are the consequences (spending years as someone's bitchboy in high security prison).

As a liberal, I oppose censorship. As someone who walks the streets at night, I oppose the devil-may-care knife culture. But making video games a scapegoat is not the answer. The issues are far more deep and involved than that. Corporate greed has lead to a culture where the family suffers as both parent are forced to work to make ends meet. Aspirational marketing, and 80s style greed-is-good culture has created a world where everyone believes it is their RIGHT to have what they want, and have it now... but the same designer-corporate world is creating a poverty gap that means in order to get it, people have to just take it. And since no-one wants to give it, violence often ensues.

Rating games is a waste of time! Regardless of the ratings parents will buy them to keep their kids quiet. And the government know this, so their will be an increase in the banning and censoring of games. Films, however, will continue to be judged by a different set of standards.

I cant see what is wrong with the current system.

On the other hand i can see what is wrong with millions of parents that let there children view/play material which is not sutible for them.

Unfortunalty nothing can be done for the above as millions of parents couldnt give a "insert any random expletive" about there kids.